.... to wonder why the world doesn't know that the Polish govt are trying to ban abortion?

(12 Posts)
ChocolateForAll Mon 03-Oct-16 21:19:08

This came up in my FB news feed. Appalling. Has anyone else heard about this? How is this not common knowledge?

WinchesterWoman Mon 03-Oct-16 21:21:05

Because men dictate the news agenda? There's been a thread in feminism and ideas for action. It's bloody awful.

megletthesecond Mon 03-Oct-16 21:21:59

There's a petition link somewhere.

PotteringAlong Mon 03-Oct-16 21:29:47

There's a thread in chat. Hang on...

PotteringAlong Mon 03-Oct-16 21:31:09

it's here

60sname Mon 03-Oct-16 21:31:50

I just checked and it has been on the BBC, the Guardian, the Mail and the Independent today, as well as ABC News, the Washington Post and Yahoo News, to name a few

MatildaOfTuscany Mon 03-Oct-16 21:32:47

It's been on the BBC and in the Guardian and Telegraph today (and on and off for the last week or so), so no cover-up.

BBC article

Guardian article

Telegraph article

But totally agree that it's absolutely shocking. Abortion (except in the case of rape, incest or risk to the life of the mother, or the foetus being unviable) has actually been illegal in Poland for over a decade now (with the result that there are illegal abortions running into the 100s of thousands there, I think, if I'm remembering the figures correctly), but what's new about this bill is it would introduce prison sentences of up to 5 years for women who had abortions, and there's also the concern that the onus would be on the woman to prove that she'd suffered a spontaneous miscarriage rather than an abortion, which in early pregnancy is impossible to do - medically, the aftermath of the two events looks exactly the same.

NerrSnerr Mon 03-Oct-16 21:36:05

The world does know. I have seen it on various news sites and on one of the rolling news channels this morning.

BarbarianMum Mon 03-Oct-16 21:46:33

Much of the world lives in countries where abortion is illegal so I can't see them being very interested tbh.

If you mean why don't more people in Europe

BarbarianMum Mon 03-Oct-16 21:48:30

...know, then it must be because they don't follow the broadsheet press because there has been quite a bit of coverage.
It is awful though and I'd urge people to sign the petition.

MatildaOfTuscany Mon 03-Oct-16 22:00:00

Linked to on one of the other threads, but this is a great article - pointing out, with reference to the WHO statistics, that making abortion illegal does not reduce the rate of abortion in countries, it merely increases the number of women dying from botched backstreet abortions. In fact the countries with the lowest abortion rates in the world are the ones in Western Europe with easily accessed, legal abortion - for the simple reason that they also tend to have readily available, effective and cheap contraception too.

MatildaOfTuscany Mon 03-Oct-16 22:00:10

Linked to on one of the other threads, but this is a great article - pointing out, with reference to the WHO statistics, that making abortion illegal does not reduce the rate of abortion in countries, it merely increases the number of women dying from botched backstreet abortions. In fact the countries with the lowest abortion rates in the world are the ones in Western Europe with easily accessed, legal abortion - for the simple reason that they also tend to have readily available, effective and cheap contraception too.

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