To think the world is rapidly going to shit... now disneyland is a potential target

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StarsandSparkles Wed 10-Aug-16 21:05:16

I really do despair of all the atrocites carried out and the potential ones like this one carried out. Why cant everyone just get along?confused http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/disneyland-paris-evacuated-after-suspect-8604754

LIZS Wed 10-Aug-16 21:11:49

It has been on high alert for a while and apparently they try to avoid evacuations as people are probably more at risk leaving the park en mass.

LikeDylanInTheMovies Wed 10-Aug-16 21:19:16

Could we come to an agreement and they blow it to smithereens when it is empty?

StarsandSparkles Wed 10-Aug-16 21:35:03

likedylan they can do that after ive been back one last visit lol

cdtaylornats Wed 10-Aug-16 21:35:35

Some of those Disney characters are probably undercover cops. Would it be traumatising for kids if someone yelled Allah Akbhar and was blown away by Elsa and Mickey Mouse.

The world's fine unless Trump gets elected then you can wonder who the other 3 horsemen are.

mrgrouper Wed 10-Aug-16 21:37:51

We do not know it is a bomb. There could be an innocent explanation to the suspect package.

Rubies12345 Wed 10-Aug-16 21:39:05

The world's fine
confused

Hulababy Wed 10-Aug-16 21:40:52

Apparently it is the train station at DLP that has been evacuated due to a suspect package. Could easily be as simple as a left bag/box. I hope so.
But the parks (inc those int he US) have always been a potential target, just like any place which has large crowds of people.

DesolateWaist Wed 10-Aug-16 21:44:17

We have been evacuating places due to suspect packages since the 70s.

Fruu Wed 10-Aug-16 22:05:12

One of my mum's friends had her knitting blown up by a bomb disposal squad once because she left it behind on a train platform. Another time my mum left her cool box on the train, rushed back to get it and found a load of officials giving it the eye. Suspect packages must happen a lot, and 99.999% of the time it's probably not a bomb.

Recently I reported an abandoned bag that was on the train into Manchester airport and the conductor couldn't care less and did nothing about it. Even though suspect packages are generally mundane items I think they should still treat them seriously.

Hulababy Wed 10-Aug-16 22:09:09

One of the news outlets have updated - apparently it was the Marne le Valley bus station which was evacuated, and apparently it was an bonded bag. Nothing confirmed elsewhere as yet but hopefully just a false alarm.

LIZS Wed 10-Aug-16 22:09:46

That's very true. I commuted in the late 80s/90s and often waited outside stations due to suspect packages the overwhelming majority of which were innocent. Few got reported back then , I imagine this is only news due to social media.

228agreenend Wed 10-Aug-16 22:10:51

Blowing up suspicious packages is nothing new. My mum got a packet from Northern Ireland which she noticed had a silver lining to it. She called the police who did a small controlled explosion? It turned out to be some craft stuff.

This was in the days of the IRA threat, so not recent.

Hulababy Wed 10-Aug-16 22:13:26

Was the same in the late 80s/early 90s when I was growing up. The local shopping centre was often evacuated. I had a weekend job at a fast food place just inside and spent many an hour stood outside on the road waiting to be able to go back in. I was always just a random left bag fortunately (hope this really is too.) Never made more than the local newspaper and even then rarely. No social media and 24 hour red top reporting to raise th panic levels. Have you read the headlines?!?!

MrsJoeyMaynard Wed 10-Aug-16 22:15:08

I think any public place that tends to have lots of people in it is a potential target.

Hopefully it's an ordinary package someone left by accident rather than anything sinister.

PickAChew Wed 10-Aug-16 22:16:27

Travel in the 80s/90s was pretty fraught with such delays.

Around that time, my dad was a screw, working in the kitchens (before Serco et all got their grubby hands on it all). He did detached duty at a particular prison away from home, regularly and there was a stray cat which lived on the grounds. It was customary to put a package out for the cat, at the end of an evening serving, wrapped in brown paper to protect it from birds, which it would find and tear open. problem was, they had different security staff, one evening, for some reason or other.

So the poor cat got no tea because its dinner was blown up by a robot, as it was treated as a suspicious package!

augustwashout Wed 10-Aug-16 22:21:54

Soldiers and police with assault rifles....what do you say to the dc?

Its despicable.

Emmaroos Wed 10-Aug-16 22:24:56

I was there this week. We got off the train at the station and everyone leaving the train was 'subtly' escorted by 8 heavily armed soldiers between the train and the entrance to the park (where all bags are x-rayed). I caused consternation because I stayed behind the throng to have some words with a stroppy child on the bench on the platform. A guard hovered near me until we got to the park. I don't see how anyone could leave a bag down and get very far away from it without being accosted by a soldier, and i'm pretty sure that they'd be shooting first and asking questions later if anyone made any suspicious moves. They didn't have the usual bored look they often have.
It was quite reassuring actually - we had a big debate before going about whether we were being irresponsible to go, but it was probably no riskier than being out and about in London.
When we were coming home on the eurostar someone had just left a bag on the floor beside the baggage scan. It turned out to belong to the people in front of us. There were a couple of minutes of increasingly frantic shouting while everyone edged away from (including the people who owned it) it before they realised it was theirs and claimed it. It's the new reality and we might as well get used to it - We all know that these attacks aren't going away any time soon.

BadTasteFlump Wed 10-Aug-16 22:28:25

When we visited a while ago there were soldiers with assault rifles just behind us on the moving walkway thing as we were going in on the first day. I was thinking 'Oh shit how do I explain this' until the DC spotted them and thought they were 'cool like RL Toy Story soldiers!!'....

DesolateWaist Wed 10-Aug-16 22:58:49

Soldiers and police with assault rifles....what do you say to the dc?

There have been armed police on the streets for years, especially at airports. What do you say? You say that they are there to help keep us safe.

Honestly, this has been going on for decades. It's just the people who are different. I was in the centre of Manchester the day the bomb went off there 20 years ago. Everyone who lived or worked in a major city in the 70s, 80s and 90s was on the constant look out for abandoned bags etc.

Flashbangandgone Wed 10-Aug-16 23:24:02

I'm fed up with the apocalyptic 'the world is going rapidly to shit' stuff... Just read a bit of history and it will put today's terrorism into perspective.

PickAChew Wed 10-Aug-16 23:31:29

Exactly, Flash

Floralnomad Wed 10-Aug-16 23:33:36

Totally agree ,it's always been the same its just different terrorist groups . My sister went on a school trip to the Tower of London a couple of days before the IRA bombed it and we are in our 50s now so nothing much has changed ,you just have to hope that you'll never be involved . We go to DLP a lot and went last year just after the Paris attacks and I didn't find the security intrusive at all .

Emmaroos Thu 11-Aug-16 04:50:03

I think the world is in a similar place to where it was before WW1. That was pretty apocalyptic. But most people survived and life went on after it ended. I really dread trump winning and where that could take the world, and I'm not a Hillary fan.

treaclesoda Thu 11-Aug-16 05:06:52

Soldiers and police with assault rifles...what do you say to the dc?

Having grown up in 1980s N Ireland I can hopefully reassure you that the children are not the ones who find this stuff traumatic. We all just accepted it, it wasn't even particularly scary. In fact as a child I was a bit frightened when we visited England, as we did regularly, and cars were parked in the street with no one paying any attention to them because I was scared they would have a bomb in them. It was scary going into a city centre shop without being searched because who was keeping an eye on things? Obviously as an adult I now know that it was my norm that was 'wrong' but as a child you're comfortable with what you're familiar with.

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