To find it weird that people still give Michael Jackson Godlike status??

(110 Posts)
happyend Sun 17-Jul-16 20:43:16

Is it just me? They have now found pornographic images of young boys at his home yet people still talk about him as if he is so great. One particular person I know gets her son to do his MJ dancing and he wears his hat everywhere and it makes me feel ill. I don't think people would find this acceptable if it was about Gary Glitter, would they?? I don't get it, can anyone enlighten me?

IHateDoors Sun 17-Jul-16 20:47:02

I don't get it either. I was a big fan of Michael Jackson and I do still love his music. I always hoped that the allegations were untrue and that he was just a damaged man with no understanding of appropriate adult/child relationships. Very naive of me.

It now seems as though there is concrete evidence of him being a child abuser and it all ends there. He abused children. I feel pity for the man for his fucked up childhood but he then fucked up the lives of other kids and that, in my opinion, is unforgiveable.

OreosAreTasty Sun 17-Jul-16 20:49:58

YADNBU.
I don't know or care enough to research whether or not the allegations are true but I know everyone slated him for it (rightly so if they were true), his music no longer aired on most major channels/stations and he was dragged through the mud and disgraced (Again, rightly so if true)
BUT. the second he karked it everyone jumps up and down about how he's the king of pop...
no.
just.
no.

MintyChapstick Sun 17-Jul-16 20:49:58

YANBU. He was a pedophile, I think we all know that now. I was never really a big fan of him and never got the personality cult that surrounded him with his downright bonkers fans.

Really what makes him any different to Gary Glitter?

mzS1990 Sun 17-Jul-16 20:50:58

Is the proof real though?

mzS1990 Sun 17-Jul-16 20:51:14

I mean is the 'proof' real

IHateDoors Sun 17-Jul-16 21:38:58

I think we have to assume that enough evidence has been found to say that he was a paedophile.

panegyricS1 Sun 17-Jul-16 22:09:23

I enjoy his music (pre 1990 only though) but I think he deserves the full Savile/Gary Glitter treatment if he's a proven paedophile ie no television footage, no radio etc.

Coconutty Sun 17-Jul-16 22:11:57

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SylviaFuckingPlath Sun 17-Jul-16 22:13:45

His fans are unusually protective. It's very specific to him and i've never worked it out. They show up on the comments of every article about him, proclaiming his innocence.

happyend Sun 17-Jul-16 22:16:05

Well at least there are some others in agreement. I wonder what these kids who dance to Michael Jackson songs will think when they realise their parents had them dancing around to songs by a paedophile confused

Dodooodoo Sun 17-Jul-16 22:20:06

What was the proof? I thought they
Were just olden day art pics of naked men?
I also thought one of the boys he abused apparently admitted his dad made him lie.

I think he was a very messed up man. I wonder if his kids will ever speak about their childhood.

Pagwatch Sun 17-Jul-16 22:20:23

I don't really get the rewriting of history.
I loved Michael Jacksons music in the 70s and early 80s. He turned out to be seriously damaged and an abuser. It's doesn't stop me liking the songs of my childhood.

ABloodyDifficultWoman Sun 17-Jul-16 22:23:00

I grew up to the sound of Gary Glitter. I can't help still liking those songs and I feel the same about MJ. No, I don't dance around the house to their hits and no, I don't buy their albums but it's kind of weird if those songs form an important part of your memories - you can't just wipe that.

Pagwatch Sun 17-Jul-16 22:25:07

I get quite irritated by the idea that one should ABloodyDifficultWoman.

TheNaze73 Sun 17-Jul-16 22:25:19

Isn't this libellous?

pooh2 Sun 17-Jul-16 22:27:11

YANBU! I was a massive fan, went to pieces when he died, always believed that the allegations against him were false. As a previous poster said, I always felt that he was very damaged from his own awful childhood, and was a naive person who wasn't able to maintain normal relationships with children and overstepped boundaries in an innocent way. Feel very foolish now, admitting this! As others have said, I don't know why he's not been taken off the airwaves in the same way as Gary Glitter, Rolf Harris, that guy from Lostprophets, etc now this new evidence has surfaced.

boopsy Sun 17-Jul-16 22:28:42

I'm not sure. Didnt one of the boys admit to lying and his mother had a history of attention seeking behaviour and lies? Also if indecent images were found at his house he would have been arrested for that as its a crime in itself. I'm still not saying he is innocent as I don't know, he behaviour was weird to say the least.

ABloodyDifficultWoman Sun 17-Jul-16 22:28:59

I don't think you can libel the dead Naze

Yes Pagwatch - I do too - but gosh don't people just love to pass comment - usually involving the words 'How can you.....' grin

KimmySchmidtsSmile Sun 17-Jul-16 22:35:27

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3662838/Michael-Jackson-s-massive-mannequin-collection-life-size-childlike-dolls-inside-King-Pop-s-Neverland-Ranch-2003-search.html#comments

Either he's a hoarder of junk and some dodgy art or he's a collector of porn with inappropriate judgement/impulses
Bottom line: would any of you have been happy with your dc sharing a bed with the guy?
I wouldn't. Even without the rumours. With the rumours, not a bleeding chance.

ItsABanana Sun 17-Jul-16 22:35:58

I've never liked him since he paid off his accusors

Let me start off by starting I'm not particularly a MJ fan, although I like some of his songs.
This is what I just don't get though. He supposedly paid off his accusers.
What in the hell kind of "parent" would let themselves be bought off?! If I thought anyone had touched my kids (it makes me feel sick just typing that) no amount of money could pay me off. I'd want to see them pay.
It makes me feel physically ill to think a parent would allow themselves to be kept quiet if enough money was thrown at them.
Maybe I'm naïve, I don't know. Whatever.

lougle Sun 17-Jul-16 22:36:36

I don't quite understand why the link is made between the talent of the artist and the behaviour of the man. I can hold the two quite separately in my head and admire one while abhoring the other.

I understand that the idea of his estate receiving royalties would be galling for anyone who may have been hurt by him though, so perhaps that's why there is particular outrage against recording artists, etc.

Pagwatch Sun 17-Jul-16 22:37:46

I'm pretty certain he was a paedophile but if you start insisting that there is a sort of morality about expunging anything connected with people who are subsequently found to be abusers where do you stop?
Half the 70s Rock gods were 'hanging out with underage groupies' which makes them paedophiles in my book. Chris Langham had images of child abuse on his computer - should I stop watching the thick of it? The guy who plays Puckerman in Glee - do I stop my DD watching Glee?
Society is littered with paedophiles.

ItsABanana Sun 17-Jul-16 22:37:49

Isn't this libellous?

Michael Jackson's not here anymore, so anything said about him now isn't libellous as you can't libel the dead.

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost Sun 17-Jul-16 22:42:32

I couldn't agree more. Fantastic music. You couldn't take that away from him, but. That's it.

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