To think western Governments need to fight against Saudi Arabian Wahhabism

(50 Posts)
TheSuze Fri 15-Jul-16 13:04:33

Well that really, muslims are being radicalised around the world in Saudi funded Islamic schools. Saudi Arabia is funding mosques in UK, France and Germany.

Islam can be peaceful and loving, but Wahhabism isn't. We can't keep being attacked we need to stop Saudi Arabia who is the root of all radicalisation. Im not saying military action, but we need to stop appeasing the Saudi's.

Yasmin-alibhai-brown is completely right on this. Please read www.independent.co.uk/voices/the-evil-empire-of-saudi-arabia-is-the-west-s-real-enemy-a6669531.html

TheSuze Fri 15-Jul-16 13:13:11

Sorry if a bit of a rant just annoyed at all the inaction of the real problem.

Zhabr Fri 15-Jul-16 13:13:47

Good article. I am glad somebody started to talk about it.

TheSuze Fri 15-Jul-16 13:17:42

I love Yasmin-Alibhai-Brown she is such an intellectual.

My DH is muslim and detests the whole set up in Saudi Arabia (he has been there). He also hates the way wahhabism is seen by some as the reality of all islam. In his home country women drive, go to the beach, manage to survive without being chaperoned hmm, etc. I am hoping low oil prices will reduce the financial muscle of the Saudi Government.

LurkingHusband Fri 15-Jul-16 13:20:11

You could have titled your post ...

"To stop western governments sucking up to the filthy rich Saudi government"

Which would be (a) more accurate and (b) suggests why it's answer is likely to be "not likely" sad

ApocalypseSlough Fri 15-Jul-16 13:22:07

^^
It's true. hmm

Lurking
Not quite so "filthy rich"
oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Low-Oil-Prices-Forcing-Saudi-Arabia-To-Modernize-Economy.html

ghostyslovesheep Fri 15-Jul-16 13:24:01

YANBU

orangebird69 Fri 15-Jul-16 13:26:20

Yanbu

Auti Fri 15-Jul-16 13:26:31

Old news but yes YANBU.

If you look up the origins of the House of Saud and wahhabism things start to get very murky.

Hopefully the new generation of electric cars will see them off!

squoosh Fri 15-Jul-16 13:28:51

'Hopefully the new generation of electric cars will see them off!'

I never even thought of that!

SoThisIsSummer Fri 15-Jul-16 13:31:04

Yes I agree.

Can we simply ban it? Why should saudi be allowed to fund these mosques on western soil?

ToastDemon Fri 15-Jul-16 13:31:54

I completely agree but I'm not sure what the answer is.
Was saying on the Paris attack thread that Islam has been practiced in such a diverse way globally and, terror attacks aside, it's saddening to see hundreds of years of people's culture and traditions steamrollered by an ultra-conservative monolith.

I am half expecting Saudi Arabia to implode in the next decade if oil prices stay low. Bread and Circuses stops working to subdue the population when you can't supply the bread anymore.

Auti Fri 15-Jul-16 13:35:35

Sadly it coming way too late.

The Saudis have already spent BILLIONS pushing wahhabism in schools and mosques all over the world.

This country she follow Austria's example and ban foreign funding of religious schools and places of worship ASAP.

Auti Fri 15-Jul-16 13:37:30

This country should follow Austria's example and ban foreign funding of religious schools and places of worship ASAP.

SoThisIsSummer Fri 15-Jul-16 13:39:08

yes I agree Auti and agree its coming too bloody late.

ToastDemon Fri 15-Jul-16 13:42:12

Yet officially we're great bloody chums with them, aren't we? Doesn't seem to be even a sniff of critisism towards them from the UK. It's starting to feel like the elephant in the room.

EnthusiasmDisturbed Fri 15-Jul-16 13:44:50

Absolutely agree

But We celebrate our freedom that has also allowed growth of extreme Islam in Europe that has been fuelled and funded from Wahhabism. We either have to take the step of saying no extreme Islam it has no place in our progressive society (as France has tried to do) or we allow the right of freedom to practise religion to whatever degree you feel is right for yourself as long as you are not harming others

The debate of the niqab highlights the difficulties in dealing with religious freedom

SoThisIsSummer Fri 15-Jul-16 13:45:55

I think we can say no more extremism.

LurkingHusband Fri 15-Jul-16 13:47:59

ChazsBrilliantAttitude

Good point. The booming US (soon to be followed by UK) shale gas industry is a worrying development (and the reason the oil prices are being kept so low. OPEC is desperate to prevent shale gas exploitation by making it look unprofitable when the price of oil is so low).

Once the US has no need of Saudi Oil, it will have no interest in stability in the Middle East. In fact the less stable the better as international oil prices would go up making the US self-sufficiency in energy a very big deal.

Of course, with no need to suck up to the US, the Saudis are probably going to say "Right. No more Mr. Nice guy ..." shock

Auti Fri 15-Jul-16 13:48:42

Problem is the British Empire founded and funded the house of saud, they are our chums.

LurkingHusband Fri 15-Jul-16 13:49:13

This country she follow Austria's example and ban foreign funding of religious schools and places of worship ASAP.

suits me better.

LurkingHusband Fri 15-Jul-16 13:50:10

Problem is the British Empire founded and funded the house of saud, they are our chums.

I suspect most people on hearing "T.E. Lawrence" will be thinking "Where's he on Pokemon Go ?"

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