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Nursery teacher has completely undersold DC in report - do I say something?

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alificent · 12/07/2016 23:31

I pick my nephew up from nursery school everyday. He is taught by a qualified teacher and turns 4 in August. He received his report today and his teacher has given him the levels 40-60b for everything. However, I think this is far from correct. He can do sums with numbers up to 20. He draws pictures of people with ten features and background details in his pictures. He can do 100 piece puzzles in a few minutes. He can tell the time more so than his seven year old sister. He can spell around ten words and write most letters clearly and do on.

I would say he's brighter than my 5 yo who I was told in her report is exceeding in everything at school. His nursery teacher has never seemed to take to him and I feel like she's done him a disservice by giving him these levels. Would I/my sister being wrong to query it?

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AndNowItsSeven · 12/07/2016 23:33

Why does in matter what his " levels"
are he is four!

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hastheworldgonemad · 12/07/2016 23:33

Mmmmm he's not your child and he's still 3!

I think respectfully you need to get a hobby.

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AndNowItsSeven · 12/07/2016 23:33

It

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AndNowItsSeven · 12/07/2016 23:33

Oops yes three not four.

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DesolateWaist · 12/07/2016 23:33

40-60 is they highest they can get in nursery. After that it is the early learning goals but he can't be assessed against them until the end of reception.

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DesolateWaist · 12/07/2016 23:35

And yes, it really doesn't matter what his levels are.

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Xmasbaby11 · 12/07/2016 23:35

What pp says - levels probably not important. He sounds very bright though - my 4 year old can't do any of those things!

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alificent · 12/07/2016 23:36

I know it's none of my business really but I think he's really bright and want to see him challenged at primary school rather than become bored as he can easily do my DDs year 1 work.

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Coconut0il · 12/07/2016 23:37

I think that's the highest they can go in Nursery? Also children don't always show everything they can do at home at school. If there's no evidence it's hard to say a child can do something even if their parents say they can.

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Rainbowqueeen · 12/07/2016 23:38

I think its possible that what he will do for you or your sister at home he may not be willing to do at nursery. he may be too busy wanting to play or do other things for example. That's pretty normal for lots of kids

She can only report on what she sees.

Also do they test telling the time, sums up to 20 at nursery? She might have no idea that he can do these things

The only query I would be making at this stage is finding out exactly what he was tested on. It might be that the levels she has given him are correct for those things.

Also at the end of the day, does his nursery report really matter?? maybe best just to shrug and move on

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BackforGood · 12/07/2016 23:39

Ye, YABU.
He is 3, and displaying skills that are absolutely age appropriate, and quite possibly at the top end of those bands. So there's no issue.

a) Nursery teacher is reporting against the EYFS which goes up to 60 months, so there isn't a higher category
b)It's perfectly possible she hasn't seen evidence of all he does at home, when he is at Nursery, and she can only report on what she has seen
c) it's not your child, so why are you reading his report and talking about querying it?
d) Saying he's in the top band is hardly doing him a disservice
e)I find it highly doubtful that the Nursery Teacher "never took to him"

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CodyKing · 12/07/2016 23:41

His new teacher will be doing things her way and they don't hold kids back - but there's more to maths grades than telling time and adding up -

He's 4 let him play whilst he's little

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hastheworldgonemad · 12/07/2016 23:42

I have no idea what levels are.

My older kids have degrees and teems doing well.

Seriously people track levels of toddlers/pre schoolers? Really? Seriously?

How fucking sad.

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Beeziekn33ze · 12/07/2016 23:44

When children go up to reception, junior school, secondary school they are usually assessed by the school they go into irrespective of levels.
Basically some schools inflate levels of children going up and the new school likes to check where the children really are.
Don't worry about it.

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acasualobserver · 12/07/2016 23:44

OK, the world has gone mad. Officially.

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TheWindInThePillows · 12/07/2016 23:46

I think the point of a nursery assessment, if I remember correctly, is to tick off all the things they can do. They don't then add on the extra stuff, those levels aren't covered.

So, there's no issue.

Don't be one of those parents who is convinced their children are so bright they won't be challenged in regular school, this is quite unlikely, my dds' are very bright and have always found there's more to learn and things to discover.

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clam · 12/07/2016 23:47

Why don't you just have done with it, rip up the report and write your own? What the hell does the professional who teaches him all day know, after all?

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justdontevenfuckingstart · 12/07/2016 23:48

We all think our kids are super intelligent, and nieces and nephews too. Just let him enjoy his childhood because believe me there are plenty of years to come with pressure to achieve and expectations to live up to when they are older. Horrible for the kids involved. Just let him be.

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hastheworldgonemad · 12/07/2016 23:51

acasual

Totally agree.

Think my kids were gifted and talented at 3, with playing on the slide, trike riding, getting messy and smelling. Are there levels for this?

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umizoomi · 12/07/2016 23:53

My DS is 4 and have just had his transition to school report too - he has 40-60 either secure or confident.

Teacher from primary came for home visit. He seemingly did well in all areas of counting , letters and shapes (recognised pentagon , octagon and some 3D they were surprised at apparently it's not expected)

I don't know the difference between secure and confident. I assume he is doing well and he's happy I am not much arsed to investigate further at 4.

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Floggingmolly · 12/07/2016 23:53

Nurseries have levels???

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Floggingmolly · 12/07/2016 23:54

None of my three were levelled at nursery. They were obviously so far off the scale numbers would have been meaningless...

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JinkxMonsoon · 12/07/2016 23:55

Of course you don't need to say anything. He leaves preschool next week and starts Reception in September, I'm guessing?

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bumsexatthebingo · 12/07/2016 23:56

While your nephew is doing really well for his age those levels seem right to me - in literacy and maths at least - you haven't mentioned his physical development/social skills etc. The next stage up from 40-60 months is the Early Learning Goals. To acheiev these your nephew would have to able to half, double and share numbers in maths and be reading in literacy and writing using his phonic knowledge rather than memorising words.

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Witchend · 13/07/2016 00:01

I just found it funny.
Dd1 had "can count up to 10" on her first preschool report. She was doing addition of three figure numbers at home. "Recognises some letters" she could write and had won a writing story a month previously. It was her favourite thing to do for a time. Aged 15yo I don't find she's still got that enthusiasm for work. Grin

I was just pleased that she was enjoying preschool. Really the thing that matters is the social bit at that stage. Academic stuff they'll do at school. If they're already struggling socially it can be difficult for them to mix at school without that bit of extra nurturing they get at preschool.

Let me let you into a little secret.... It made no difference to how they treated her at school. They assessed her upon entry and gave her stuff accordingly. And some of those who came into school genuinely unable to count to 3 or know any letters soon caught up. It didn't mean that they failed to enter her for the higher level when she got to GCSE.

Second children often seem to be picking up things quicker than the first because they imitate the first. Dd2 did dd1's homework throughout year 1 and 2. Dd2 was 3 years younger and dd1 was top table. Dd1 explained it to dd2 and then dd2 did it. Good for both of them.
It wasn't that she was better-it was that she had the opportunity.

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