To think that 'like putting lipstick on a pig' smacks of misogyny?

(19 Posts)
Beckadillo Mon 13-Jun-16 21:32:30

This term is used a LOT in DH's office, in reference to pretty-ing up crap websites. He feels uncomfortable using it, and has asked my opinion as to whether it sounds misogynistic.

My feeling is that yes, it sounds that way, but I don't think that's the intention. It's just a horrible expression generally, IMO.

What do you think? And what expressions can he try to get going to replace it? Am personally in favour of 'like rolling shit in glitter'. Far lovelier grin

CustardLover Mon 13-Jun-16 21:45:52

Agreed. I hate this phrase. Shit in glitter is much prettier smile

EatShitDerek Mon 13-Jun-16 21:47:03

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BelfastBloke Mon 13-Jun-16 21:49:02

Obama used the phrase, and was accused of being misogynist toward Sarah Palin.

Shakey15000 Mon 13-Jun-16 21:49:23

Never heard of it <possible sheltered office life>

I get the gist of what it's alluding to but not seeing the misogyny either.

Beckadillo Mon 13-Jun-16 21:50:24

I don't think it actually is, Derek, just that it sounds it (pig being, obviously, a totally vile way of referencing an unattractive woman)

Tiggeryoubastard Mon 13-Jun-16 21:51:24

No misogyny there. May be pig ist (or is the PC term porcine ist) but definitely no misogyny.

DoinItFine Mon 13-Jun-16 21:52:24

It porcophobic certainly.

What does it have to do with women?

Is "polishing a turd" misogynistic because women do more polishing?

Or shinier shites?

EatShitDerek Mon 13-Jun-16 21:53:14

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Tiggeryoubastard Mon 13-Jun-16 21:54:22

Porcophobic. I've extended my vocabulary today.

ABCAlwaysBeCunting Mon 13-Jun-16 21:54:51

I don't see it as misogynistic. I don't think 'pig' is solely applied to women in a derogatory way either.

VestalVirgin Mon 13-Jun-16 21:55:18

As a card-carrying feminist, I do not find it particularly misogynist. Though possibly inaccurate - lipstick does not make anyone prettier, or disguise the real appearance.

Rolling shit in glitter is more accurate.

BYOSnowman Mon 13-Jun-16 21:55:22

I would say it is referencing the fact that make up is used to make a woman (or man!) more attractive. By putting make up on a pig it isn't referring to an ugly woman but just saying you can't make a pig more attractive because they are ugly animals (poor pigs)

If you changed it to 'you can't put a pig in a tux' it has the same sentiment but isn't implying the pig is really an ugly man.

I also have never heard an ugly woman called a pig but have heard 'dog'

Tiggeryoubastard Mon 13-Jun-16 21:55:23

Oh, and exactly what eatshit said. Your DH sounds quite tedious, OP.

Beckadillo Mon 13-Jun-16 21:55:42

Fair enough, shall suggest he needn't worry too much about offending anyone, barring his boss, Peppa...

DoinItFine Mon 13-Jun-16 21:55:50

I made porcophobic up.

EatShitDerek Mon 13-Jun-16 21:57:03

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Tiggeryoubastard Mon 13-Jun-16 21:58:35

*Today 21:55 DoinItFine

I made porcophobic up.*

Bugger! It's there in my head now.

DoinItFine Mon 13-Jun-16 22:05:59

I just googled it and it looks like Christopher Hitchens made it up before I did.

So it's definitely a word.

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