To wonder how a Government can publish a SATs paper by accident, twice??

(61 Posts)
ShipwreckedAndComatose Tue 10-May-16 06:38:55

Now it's the year 6 SPAG test

The whole testing has been appallingly badly handled and it's our kids who are in the middle of it!

frazmum Tue 10-May-16 06:55:06

YANBU. Reminds me of the fiasco when DD18 did Y6 SATS and lots of papers got lost in the 'system' including hers. New secondary didn't have results so she kept getting shuffled round till they got her in right class.

Managing exams is basic stuff and this incompetence just increases stress levels for everyone.

Euphemia Tue 10-May-16 06:56:32

I'm wondering if there's sabotage going on.

Sighing Tue 10-May-16 07:02:21

If teacher's were trusted to report year 6 ability without this farce of preprepared tests just to judge schools against so much money, effort and tears from children would be saved. But, it seems the government don't trust the profession and a lot of parents seem to enjoy the competition.

ShipwreckedAndComatose Tue 10-May-16 07:17:49

I don't know Euphemia. I guess it will come out with investigation. Just unbelievable!

I agree about lack of trust in teachers!

lostincumbria Tue 10-May-16 07:23:05

Why trust teachers when we can trust an incompetent company like Pearson? Maybe, just maybe, the only reason for all these exams is so we can pay more and more companies to design and administer them.

How much money could be saved by reverting to teacher assessment?

DonkeyOaty Tue 10-May-16 07:47:48

Boggled by this

Yes Euph, I did wonder about sabotage too

Hmmmm

meditrina Tue 10-May-16 08:00:53

It was placed in a password-protected area by an exam board.

Have the actual contents of the paper been compromised?

frazmum Tue 10-May-16 08:08:06

Doesn't seem to have compromised the paper. But still incompetent behaviour by the exam board. And causes stress for all.

AugustaFinkNottle Tue 10-May-16 08:10:12

The problem is that they outsource to their friends like Pearson. They have a track record for incompetence, so you really have to wonder how on earth they got the SATs contract.

As I understand it, prior to the test it was only supposed to be available to a very few selected people. They put it on a site available to all registered markers, thus massively increasing the risk of what has actually happened. How hard would it have been to avoid that?

OrangesandLemonsNow Tue 10-May-16 08:13:39

It was the exam board not the government.

Not sure how many will have seen it as was on a password protected site and taken down very quickly.

rollonthesummer Tue 10-May-16 08:15:42

Exactly what I was thinking!

Have the SATs ever been leaked before?
Is it actual incompetence or have the government decided, 'oops, things are going badly this year-everyone's complaining the English paper was too hard, they're going to go apeshit when they see the SPAG. If we leak it, they won't have to do it and we'll be off the hook!'

CoolforKittyCats Tue 10-May-16 08:22:05

It isn't the government that leaked it though.

Plus the leak wasn't 'open' enough for a volume of people to see it.

ShipwreckedAndComatose Tue 10-May-16 08:23:25

Oh please, oranges. This is entirely the Government's baby. They chose Pearson's to do the exams but the whole SATs fiasco rests at the government's door.

OrangesandLemonsNow Tue 10-May-16 08:31:44

Oh please, oranges.

No need to patronise wink I am very aware who Pearson's are and all about SATS what with being a Y6 teacher until I started maternity leave and having DSC twins, that live with us, currently sitting them. wink

littleducks Tue 10-May-16 08:35:35

I'm convinced its sabotage

SusanAndBinkyRideForth Tue 10-May-16 08:45:13

I suspect sabotage as well.

And as a secondary teacher I know I pay little attention to SATs results. Most schools I know do their own tests early in Yr7 for setting purposes, and for flagging up discrepancies that can indicate eg dyslexia. They are a waste of everyone's time, energy and money.

Foxyloxy1plus1 Tue 10-May-16 08:52:58

Never really took much notice of SATS results. Secondary teachers may consider them a guideline, but will make their own judgements. SATS are not for the children at all.

megletthesecond Tue 10-May-16 08:55:27

yy to probable sabotage.

Or possibly interns who aren't being supervised.

Janefromdowntheroad Tue 10-May-16 09:01:15

Only sabotage if the test gets cancelled

Seems to be going ahead. I think it's just good old fashioned stupidity. They clearly weren't tested enough at primary level wink

Schoolaskedustogo Tue 10-May-16 09:02:55

So it is still going ahead? I wonder what the reaction to the test today will be given that the reading test was so despaired. Poor year sixes. sad

situatedknowledge Tue 10-May-16 09:05:13

I'm sure it was someone who doesn't think they ought to be happening. It is a pity really that it was only available to so few people for such a short time. It would have been good if all the children could have had a dry run in class with their teachers.

ElectroStallion Tue 10-May-16 09:07:12

It was Pearson that fucked up the marking 15-20 years ago, wasn't it? Can't believe they're still allowed to be involved tbh.

OrangesandLemonsNow Tue 10-May-16 09:08:00

It would have been good if all the children could have had a dry run in class with their teachers.

They do have lots of dry runs and practices. In fact in the lead up in lots of schools it sometimes feels they do nothing but.

rollonthesummer Tue 10-May-16 09:08:36

Who owns Pearsons?

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