To want to explode!

(41 Posts)
Outofstrategies Tue 03-May-16 13:48:56

If another person says to me that they are not 'political' and that they aren't really bothered enough to find out about the referendum because they are 'not interested in that kind of thing' and that 'I don't like any politians so I don't vote' Or its best that I don't vote because I'm not sure and that way I won't effect the outcome!

I WILL EXPLODE!

It's your future people!

TheNaze73 Tue 03-May-16 13:51:24

YABU, I'm totally with you but, you can't expect everyone to be as passionate

Snozwanger Tue 03-May-16 13:52:44

How do you know you are "sure" of your decision OP? How do you know you have all of the facts?

Outofstrategies Tue 03-May-16 13:52:57

You don't have to be as passionate as me to VOTE!

Snozwanger Tue 03-May-16 13:56:29

I'm afraid I've never known enough about politics to feel that I CAN be sure. In terms of getting myself informed there is so much to know I wouldn't know where to start. I'm disappointed with myself that I don't take part but I honestly don't have a clue shock

Bogeyface Tue 03-May-16 14:02:07

YABU

The problem with this referendum is that no one really knows what will happen afterwards especially if we leave. Its all conjecture and spin from both sides pushing their agendas.

A lot of people dont feel comfortable voting because they dont know what will happen afterwards and if its bad then they dont want that feeling of "well you brought it on yourself", they would rather blame the rest of us that do vote!

In a normal election I would agree with you, but I can see why a lot of people are not going to vote in this one because the information you would normally have to base you decision on, simply isnt there as this hasnt happened before in recent enough history to give an indication of possible outcomes.

I suspect that the vote will be to stay because of those that do vote, many will go with a "better the devil you know" approach.

Bogeyface Tue 03-May-16 14:05:12

Also dont forget that in normal elections, if it goes wrong we all know that in 4/5 years we get another go at getting it right. With this, if we leave and it goes tits up then I suspect it wont be as easy as saying "Sorry!!! Can we come back please?" in a couple of years. I will still be voting to leave, but the the fear of this being a lot more final (ish) than a standard election may be another reason for people not voting.

Bogeyface Tue 03-May-16 14:07:16

You don't have to be as passionate as me to VOTE!

No. But you do need to have some basic idea of what it is you are voting for which we dont have and many people dont want to take a decision based on Might/Should/Could/Maybe.

MizK Tue 03-May-16 14:08:54

Explode away. If I don't vote it has fuck all to do with you. Many people refuse to spend time looking into policies and pros and cons etc because they think that politics is all utter horseshit and would prefer to spend their lives concentrating on other things.

herecomethepotatoes Tue 03-May-16 14:18:30

I'm not going to vote because I'm not sure.

I'm pretty clever (couple of post-grads) and a proud Tory / Euro-sceptic most of the time but I simply don't know and therefore abstaining's my thought-out option. I'd love to stick two fingers up at Brussels but it might not be the smartest move.

Are you one of those people who constantly tries to bring up politics when everyone else is happily discussing holiday plans? I tell people like that I'm not political rather than hear them blather on about junior doctors and Cameron's millions whereas in actual fact I have a Conservatives tea cup on my desk right now and have very strong opinions on most aspects of politics.

Eigg Tue 03-May-16 14:21:26

If you are very passionate OP they might just be fibbing you off because they didn't want to argue with you.

I told a couple of people my Mum I was undecided all through the Scottish Indy ref campaign.

I wasn't, I just didn't want to hear a rant.

LecternSpace Tue 03-May-16 14:26:33

"If you are very passionate OP they might just be fibbing you off because they didn't want to argue with you. "

That's exactly what I thought. smile

NannawifeofBaldr Tue 03-May-16 14:30:24

Although I meant "fobbing" of course! blush

Clandestino Tue 03-May-16 14:31:39

This is the price we pay for general literacy and the choice of people to be interested or not. I get your frustration but you have to accept that people may decide to care or not.

MorrisZapp Tue 03-May-16 14:32:27

Eigg.

Are you me?

smile

KittyandTeal Tue 03-May-16 14:32:59

I hold the opinion (and an vocal about it) that if you don't vote you have absolutely no right to complain.

Eigg Tue 03-May-16 14:34:39

gringringrin

I actually had very strong views and dos lots of reading around the subject but view tended to be polarised that I was fairly discreet. All my family and friends voted differently to us.

FlyingElbows Tue 03-May-16 14:35:47

Op you do understand that, as others have said, sometimes people brush politics off because they hold their own opinions and have no interest in being brow-beaten by other people's? Whether to vote and how to vote is entirely personal choice and none of your business. I understand your passion though smile

Bogeyface Tue 03-May-16 14:39:23

There was an anti suffrage campaign run by women who didnt want the vote, there have always been people who dont want to be involved in politics for their own reasons. Democracy is the right to vote, or not, as one chooses.

LurkingHusband Tue 03-May-16 14:41:49

Isn't there a saying about subjects for polite discussion excluding sex, politics and religion ?

Having worked in a family business, with a lot of customer interaction, I learned very quickly not to discuss politics with customers. Unfortunately I couldn't use my Dads excuse (which was that he wasn't able to vote).

It can be a two way street as well. On occasion, customers who seemed rational enough had some batshit (i.e. racist, misogynistic, homophobic and downright nasty) views. It's hard to do business with someone who has just unloaded a foul tirade against n-words/p-words/f-words.

LurkingHusband Tue 03-May-16 14:42:43

There was an anti suffrage campaign run by women who didn't want the vote,

Well, that's what their husbands told them ....

herecomethepotatoes Tue 03-May-16 14:45:32

what's an f-word @lurkinghusband?

PanGalaticGargleBlaster Tue 03-May-16 14:49:23

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PPie10 Tue 03-May-16 14:50:28

Go on then, you sound a bit tedious.

Bogeyface Tue 03-May-16 14:51:05

Well, that's what their husbands told them ....

So you are happy to accept women campaigning to get the vote off their own backs but not that other women could campaign against it? That they must surely be influenced by their husbands? How insulting!

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