or are the nursery?

(14 Posts)
MooningIntoTheAbyss Tue 26-Apr-16 15:04:01

I suspect neither of us are really being unreasonable.

My Dd's nursery had some changed to timetable recently. All to do with funding etc. And they changed her start time from 8.30 to 9am. She only does the 15hours and tbh this made little difference to me as I'm SAHM.
However prior to this change they had no issue with us arriving a couple - and I do mean 2, maybe as much as 3- minutes early.

Now they have become extremely strict that she can not enter the room until the clock inside shows 9am. Fine, I get that it's an insurance thing.

However - she finishes at 4 and they want us leaving at 4. Not me arriving to collect her at 4. She must be out the door by 4pm.

Again, this isn't exactly a hardship but it's a bit like having it both ways.
If I can't drop her until -technically- after 9am then surely I shouldn't have to collect her before 4pm.

AIBU to be a bit miffed by this seeming double standard?

MrsHathaway Tue 26-Apr-16 15:16:33

My holiday club is a bit like this. The slot available to you is 9-4 so you can't be in outside those times. Like having to park within the lines of a parking space although you can park right up to the edge.

EYFS funding is pretty bloody low. Are they providing before- and after-school club or something? The money is more flexible there because the ratios are more favourable to managers.

I don't think nursery IBU so it must be you. It was cheeky to get away with the extra few minutes here and there. Particularly in the afternoon you could have been stopping someone from going home that wasn't being paid.

MooningIntoTheAbyss Tue 26-Apr-16 15:30:23

They do do before and after clubs that you can pay for. Which is why I get not being allowed in before 9.
But if she findings at 4 why can't I collect her at 4, instead of 3.55?
If I was paying for the childcare I am sure it would be the same as it was a blanket letter that went out to everyone (It is talked about between parents when collecting and dropping off).

MrsHathaway Tue 26-Apr-16 15:35:04

Taking the funding affects start they ate allowed to charge iirc so it's not that you get worse treatment for not paying a bill, which would be totally wrong.

If it's a generic letter then it will really be aimed at those who arrive at 8.45 "because you're open and the traffic to work looks awful and it's just this once" and rock up at 4.10 because they lost track of time but then want an in depth discussion of little Peregrine's linguistic development.

3.59 is before four. grin

lalalalyra Tue 26-Apr-16 15:41:03

It could be that they've got parents taking the piss. At the playscheme I run, despite the fact people pay less than £10 per WEEK they still take the piss. So our morning session finishes at 12.30pm and there are people who are just rocking up to try and park their car etc at half past.

The morning thing could be a staff ratio issue. If they have staff that start work at 9am then at 8.58am they could be under ratio and if an inspector wandered in at that point they could be in bother. Also again parents could be taking the mick. We start at 9. We're insured from 9 yet every single day there's kids queuing from 8.45am and the amount of times we've been asked "Is it ok if I just leave them in the queue now because I've got to go to....?" is uncountable.

Unfortunately the piss takers tend to lead to a tightening up for all.

Allyoucaneat Tue 26-Apr-16 15:43:10

I bet the staff are only being paid 9am -4pm and don't want to hang about for extra time - having just had their hours cuts too.

AugustaFinkNottle Tue 26-Apr-16 15:47:09

I must say if I'm paying for care up to 4, I would be rocking up at 3.59.30 to collect.

MooningIntoTheAbyss Tue 26-Apr-16 15:56:45

I'm always on time.

In fact I'm here now. Poked my head through the door and the nursery staff said to wait a few minutes so as not to disturb story time

MooningIntoTheAbyss Tue 26-Apr-16 15:58:11

I'm always on time.

In fact I'm here now. Poked my head through the door and the nursery staff said to wait a few minutes so as not to disturb story time

dontaskdonttell Tue 26-Apr-16 16:12:53

I find it a bit annoying with my sons nursery that they never let us in before 9, not even a minute early yet they open the doors for pick up sometimes 10 minutes early!! But I hadn't thought about it possibly being a ratio issue like a previous poster said, which makes sense about starting at 9 on the dot.

I understand your frustration!!

Osolea Tue 26-Apr-16 16:20:48

It's probably because there are parents who will turn up at 4.02, think they're on time, and then will still be there talking to staff and collecting belongings at 4.15.

You might always be there on time, but many parents won't be. I think considering that the staff are probably only paid until 4, and they are paid such a pittance that it is unfair to expect them to hang around any later than their contracted time especially on a regular basis, then the staff rule is fair.

lalalalyra Tue 26-Apr-16 16:25:22

I don't think the letter was aimed at you by the sound of it. It's aimed at the parents that saunter up at 4.30/4.05 each day. Especially if they then have to get coats on, pick up art work/lunch box, ask the staff about a day trip/a task/random question that can't possibly wait so you end up with parents and children not leaving until 4.10/4.15pm, which again can impact ratios if staff finish at 4pm.

Billyray23 Tue 26-Apr-16 18:04:21

I work in a similar set up to this. The problem is parent arrive at pick up time and then stand there talking for 10/15mins. The free session is for 15 hours not 15mins extra each day on top.

ElderlyKoreanLady Tue 26-Apr-16 18:08:42

My nursery does this and it isn't unreasonable at all. A child whose hours are 9-4 isn't covered by the nursery's insurance at either 08:59 or 16:01.

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