To think prince Charles isn't that bad

(202 Posts)
Julia2016 Sun 24-Apr-16 12:32:24

The princes trust does good work. Yes he didn't treat Diana well but she also manipulated the media and they were an odd match from the start.

Take the other night, why did Charles not meet Obama? Or was this William picking a job he liked doing?? It looks to me like Charles is being sidelined, perhaps there are plans to bypass him in the line of succession. Or maybe the media are not bothered about him.

I kinda like him.. 😌

LarryStylison Sun 24-Apr-16 12:34:02

Yabu

He was best mates with Saville.

ConferencePear Sun 24-Apr-16 12:36:17

I quite like Charles too. I think that he just does things differently and the media find it hard to cope with or understand. I also think that he's probably more popular in the countryside than he is in the town.

Julia2016 Sun 24-Apr-16 12:36:38

I didn't know that...

WorraLiberty Sun 24-Apr-16 12:37:09

I don't feel this way or that about him but I agree he isn't that bad.

Whatever 'that bad' means grin

bluespiral Sun 24-Apr-16 12:37:13

Yabu.

StillStayingClassySanDiego Sun 24-Apr-16 12:38:06

When I see him on the telly I think he seems charming and pleasant.

Other than that I've never thought of him as 'bad'

EponasWildDaughter Sun 24-Apr-16 12:40:44

To be fair to PC a lot of people were probably mates with Saville without knowing what he was up to.

As for is he 'that bad'? Personally i have no idea if he's good, bad or somewhere in the middle, but i know i'd like to see William be king before he's in his 60s, and sadly that isn't going to happen because Charles is going to want his go.

ProseccoPoppy Sun 24-Apr-16 12:47:37

grin worra.

Tbf I don't think he's a bad person. Just a bit glass half empty ish.

Paperbacked Sun 24-Apr-16 12:56:07

'That bad' compared to whom, though?

May I quote Marina Hyde?

There is no sillier location in the Venn diagram than the intersection of “people who are royalists” with “people who think the crown should miss out Prince Charles and go straight to Prince William”. How in the name of porphyria-by-proxy can they be both? The British monarchy is a hereditary gig as governed by the Bill of Rights and the Act of Settlement. You can’t just skip a round because you don’t like whoever the random figurehead generator has thrown up.

That’s the entire point: even if he or she is gibbering, has a chin that meets their nose, and wets the throne aged 59, they are the monarch. If you don’t like it call for a republic, where you really do get to choose. Otherwise what you’re suggesting is a popularity contest for head of state between three or fewer members of a family who couldn’t charisma their way on to a parish council in a blind judging test.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/22/her-majesty-queen-royals-monarch

Ricardian Sun 24-Apr-16 12:57:45

It looks to me like Charles is being sidelined, perhaps there are plans to bypass him in the line of succession

It's always worth pointing out, before these sorts of discussions start, that were Prince Charles to abdicate upon succeeding the crown would pass Prince Andrew, which is a place we don't want to be, and then upon his death Queen Beatrice. There is no way in which Prince Charles can be bypassed to Prince William without primary legislation.

The Queen could "step down" and appoint pretty well anyone as a regent, although it's hard to see how that wouldn't be Charles, but William's position in the order of succession depends (unless you want to consider the repealing of the Act of Settlement) on Charles the heir apparent.

LarryStylison Sun 24-Apr-16 13:01:20

Yes, lots of dodgy fuckers were mates with Savilke.

I wasn't, but I knew what Saville was up to as I lived in a town where he had a house (Scarborough). Everyone there knew, yet none of us knew him.

How could a whole town of people know, yet his best mate didn't?

Impossible. Charles knew. angry

MrHannahSnell Sun 24-Apr-16 13:09:32

I agree he's cleverer than many would have you believe and tends to say today what the rest of the world says the day after tomorrow, at least on environmental matters. BTW what evidence is there that he was "best mates" with Saville?

StillStayingClassySanDiego Sun 24-Apr-16 13:10:33

Was he 'best mates' with Saville?

Where's your source?

exLtEveDallas Sun 24-Apr-16 13:16:03

I like him. He is a personable, funny, intelligent and interesting person.

"Best mates with Saville" sounds like it should be posted on the Conspiracy loons Theorists thread.

VertigoNun Sun 24-Apr-16 13:20:16

He gives us laughs to this day. Yesterday we were quoting tamp ax and to be or not to be, nonsense.

CaptainCrunch Sun 24-Apr-16 13:21:47

He regarded Savile as his mentor. This was a direct quote from Diana in the covert recording of her conversation with James wilbey of Squidgeygate fame.

And if you cast your mind back to Tampongate you're dealing with a first class fuckwit.

annandale Sun 24-Apr-16 13:24:39

I'm sure he's very nice. But I agree with Marina Hyde - this is how it is if you have a hereditary head of state, you get good ones and bad ones and your opinion is largely irrelevant.

Not quite true - people have occasionally been shoved off the throne in favour of someone else - but it's rather an upheaval.

TSSDNCOP Sun 24-Apr-16 13:25:29

I'm not convinced that you'd place more credence with Diana on the Squidgy tapes.

Sunshowercap Sun 24-Apr-16 13:26:15

YABU.

If Diana Spencer had posted in "Relationships" here about the way Charles Windsor treated her and behaved in their marriage, he'd have been called out for what he is, an emotionally stunted man, borderline abusive.

He's personally immoral and has no right to ascend to be the "Defender of Faith" as his own personal life has been lived in such bad faith.

NinaSimoneful Sun 24-Apr-16 13:26:27

I'm on the fence. OT1H, I've heard he has a loo brush but OTOH I have on good authority that his loo roll hangs in the correct overhead position.

:-/

Queen Camilla

motherinferior Sun 24-Apr-16 13:28:04

He wants to impose his views on government; and whether or not one agrees with any of those views, that is not what a titular monarch is supposed to do. For that reason alone he would qualify as a Prize Arsehole and dangerous meddler.

If you want to be part of the machinery of democratic government, chuck the title and stand for parliament like Tony Benn. If not, butt out. And stop writing spidery letters to politicians expecting them to take notice purely because of the accident of your birth.

CaptainCrunch Sun 24-Apr-16 13:28:36

Read the Dan Davies book about Saville"In plain sight". It documents his strong links to the Royal family. He was extremely close to both Charles and Philip. And in the interest of balance I thought Diana was a fuckwit too.

crazywriter Sun 24-Apr-16 13:30:14

Hon would the crown pass to Prince Andrew I'd PC abdicated? It goes to the next in line, which is Prince William. King Edwards crown went to his brother because he had no children of his own.

crazywriter Sun 24-Apr-16 13:30:50

if PC abdicates, sorry.

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