to wonder how the country will cope with hundreds of thousands more people each year?

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evilcherub Tue 19-Apr-16 09:34:20

If the UK is going to continue to have immigration of hundreds of thousands every year (which is more likely if we don't leave the EU) and the Tories apparently having no real interest in building more genuinely affordable homes (because lower house prices do not bring in votes for the Tories), then where are the millions of extra people and families going to live (when there is already a massive housing crisis and homelessness is going through the roof)? Also, what about all the extra schools needed, the extra hospitals (when at the moment they cannot cope and the Tories want to privatise them anyway), the jobs etc? Unless you are well off/bought your home years ago and have a well-established, well paying job, then immigration means extreme and expensive competition for housing, school places, healthcare, jobs etc. I just don't see it ending well.

MartinaJ Tue 19-Apr-16 09:42:40

1. Upon arrival to a hospital, the patient should do the English test first. Spelling, grammar, history and literature. No admittance under 70% pass rate.
2. Similar procedure for housing, especially council housing.
3. No houses sold to foreigners who haven't had permanent residence in Britain and full employment for 5 years prior to purchase. This should be applied to current houses. I see many luxury houses and penthouses available for the British in London, they deserve better.
4. No immigrant should get employment in Britain without being able to list 5 most favourite Queens corgis.

The points 1 and 2 should be also applicable to any resident of the UK of GB and NI.

Hope that helps.

mountaintoclimb Tue 19-Apr-16 09:45:37

My dd and her dh have no hope of ever owning their own home or even renting a decent sized flat. Reluctantly they have started looking for accommodation in Europe although what job they'll get to pay for it heaven only knows.

MumOnTheRunCatchingUp Tue 19-Apr-16 09:46:02

Yes op I agree..... If we take more people then we need more facilities

Isn't that obvious enough?

MartinaJ Tue 19-Apr-16 09:46:12

Oh, just to add:

In Scotland all immigrants should drink 2 pints of Irn-Bru to get the right to reside in the country. That should sort dem bluidy imigrants out.

mountaintoclimb Tue 19-Apr-16 09:47:17

My dd and her dh have no hope of ever owning their own home or even renting a decent sized flat. Reluctantly they have started looking for accommodation in Europe although what job they'll get to pay for it heaven only knows.

ThroughThickAndThin01 Tue 19-Apr-16 09:49:56

I think it's a huge problem.

The worlds population needs halving for the human race to have any longevity. It'll all implode at some stage.

GibbousHologram Tue 19-Apr-16 09:50:21

You're right, we are full. Everyone stop having babies. Babies do nothing but take, take, take from the system for decades, without ever having contributed. It has to stop.

Immigrants, on the other hand, arrive grown up, educated, able to do jobs, pay taxes, set up businesses and contribute to the communal pot.

Not like those selfish babies.

mountaintoclimb Tue 19-Apr-16 09:50:41

MartinaJ there's no need to make light of it. it's a concern for a lot of people.

GibbousHologram Tue 19-Apr-16 09:51:41

Or you could all stop voting Tory.

mountaintoclimb Tue 19-Apr-16 09:52:15

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PaulAnkaTheDog Tue 19-Apr-16 09:52:34

Oh I quite liked Martina's posts...

mountaintoclimb Tue 19-Apr-16 09:52:57

How would stop voting tory help?

ThroughThickAndThin01 Tue 19-Apr-16 09:53:12

How would not voting Tory help?

PaulAnkaTheDog Tue 19-Apr-16 09:53:36

What the fuck mountain. Why is that in any way an acceptable question? Baseless and idiotic.

mountaintoclimb Tue 19-Apr-16 09:53:45

How would stop voting tory help?

ThroughThickAndThin01 Tue 19-Apr-16 09:53:45

Great minds, mountain

FlyingElbows Tue 19-Apr-16 09:55:05

Oh dear.

The80sweregreat Tue 19-Apr-16 09:55:23

Others have been saying this for a long time now and are usually told they do not have any compassion or are flamed.
When the Calais crisis was on going last August I thought where was the money where was going to come from when the government seems hell bent on cutting everything to the bone ( the authorities in Kent were on five live radio news asking for more resources, but if they got them or not I do not know, mostly to deal with the extra children that were coming into their care. the woman talking said they were already stretched)
I heard a statistic the other day that 300,00 more primary school places will be needed in the next few years too . I often hear these things, then it seems to just fade away.
It is a worry. I do not have the answers but , it seems, the people in charge don't seem to know either and I think a lot of 'head burying' is going on. just my opinion.

molyholy Tue 19-Apr-16 09:57:22

My dd and her dh have no hope of ever owning their own home or even renting a decent sized flat. Reluctantly they have started looking for accommodation in Europe although what job they'll get to pay for it heaven only knows

So they are migrating for economic reasons?

So why is it not okay for others to do this?

MumOnTheRunCatchingUp Tue 19-Apr-16 09:57:44

Yes it just 'goes away'.... Fades from the news. Not resolved though

MartinaJ Tue 19-Apr-16 09:58:45

I'm thinking about conditions for residential permit for Wales.

1. A successful applicant has to like sheep.

and

2. Be able to sing at least two Tom Jones' songs. Not Sex Bomb though because of major foreign contamination.

angelos02 Tue 19-Apr-16 09:58:51

I agree OP. And it is unlikely to affect me personally as I own my own home, have plenty of money and don't have children.

Why we can't have a points system I don't know. And make it retrospective too.
Hopefully if we come out of the EU, some headway can be made in resolving the massive issue.

MumOnTheRunCatchingUp Tue 19-Apr-16 09:59:25

Oh dear

moly nobody is saying it's not ok!!! Just where are the required extra resources to cope with it!

Onlyicanclean10 Tue 19-Apr-16 10:00:09

In my experience the people who can afford to take the piss and assume a superior attitude to Immigration and planning concerns are in safe secure jobs that haven't been affected by this.

They probably use private schools and hospitals too.

You know like David Cameron and Dianne Abbott.

Massive hypocrites and couldn't give a shit about working classes. So labour and Tory.

Op the answer is we won't, and the only winners will be ukip or worse far right groups.

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