To ask : how much do school nurses know about the kids?

(22 Posts)
MigraineMartie Thu 24-Mar-16 01:29:44

Wondering as unfortunately DD had a major head injury as an infant.
It caused the police and SS to become involved albeit for a very short time as numerous hospital tests then proved it accidental and SS decided on no need to remain involved after their initial assessment.
Actually haven't given it much of a thought since as in who will know what, the HV is obviously aware but it hasn't been mentioned in years ( DD is now 4 and starting school September ) and thankfully she has no developmental issues because of it so therefore apart from the hospital being aware and GP surgery I hadn't thought about who else would be made aware.
Will the school nurse?
Worrying me slightly as I have friends on reception at the school she will attend who don't know about it all as we hadn't met then and there's the stigma attached once you've had that suspicion against you :-(
Will I be asked about it?
Any light shedders?

Tomboyinatutu Thu 24-Mar-16 01:42:25

The school will only know if they are informed about it. If the injury is likely to cause problems in the future then they will need to know but as you aren't under SS anymore then I doubt they will be told by anyone else

curren Thu 24-Mar-16 06:20:29

Our school nurses don't know anything above what I have told them. Dd has an ongoing knee problem, I had to put it on the forms when she started.

I would imagine that if SS were still involved they would make the school aware of their involvement.

But can't imagine they would in these circumstances

Sirzy Thu 24-Mar-16 06:22:44

I can't see the school nurse becoming involved in those circumstances.

The only reason the school nurse became involved in Ds care was because school contacted her to come in and do a care plan. Even then the "care" has been minimal!

yorkshapudding Thu 24-Mar-16 06:29:14

School nurses have access to Health Visitor records as the HV's transfer the child's care over to the SN when they start school. They should also be able to view information such as A&E attendances, immunisation history, whether the child has had any hospital stays, safeguarding alerts or if police have been called to a child's address as a result of domestic violence. They would only look up this information if they had a reason to do so though, for example if they had concerns about a particular child or Social Care requested a report. Either way, in the unlikely event that your child's school nurse did look up this information they wouldn't share it with school receptionists as this would be a breach of confidentiality.

shouldwestayorshouldwego Thu 24-Mar-16 06:30:28

Never seen a school nurse (oldest 11). Around here it is very much an opt in process. If you want to see them they visit once a term. You ring up their centralised office and make an appointment. Surely they would be covered by confidentiality and a need to know basis anyway.

MigraineMartie Thu 24-Mar-16 06:35:33

Thanks for replying it's a shame she may know and attach a stigma to our little girl and family based on am accident although I can see why they would need to know as different circumstances for different people etc

RunnerOnTheRun Thu 24-Mar-16 06:35:42

No need to have a school nurse at all, opt out! They weigh your child, what kind of message does this send your daughter? It's purely for statistics for the govt

mouldycheesefan Thu 24-Mar-16 06:39:27

What school nurse?
The one that weighs and measures them in reception?
I opted out.
Never heard of the school nurse otherwise.
Wish nit nurse would come back though.

BeaufortBelle Thu 24-Mar-16 06:48:38

OP if you are very worried ask your hv and gp to see your daughter's medical records. It may help you to know what's recorded. I'm not an expert in these matters but have found these types not as transparent as they should be.

Glad your little girl is ok. Ime school nurses weigh and measure, often inaccurately and not very holistically. They also get involved in sex education with no cognizance of Stable long term relationships.

MattDillonsPants Thu 24-Mar-16 06:49:31

Mouldy some schools, often the larger ones have school nurses resident. Always there to deal with accidents and illness. Surely you must have heard them mentioned in the media? On TV? On MN?

mouldycheesefan Thu 24-Mar-16 06:56:22

What's with the passive aggressive attitude Matt? Get out of bed on the wrong side?
In our lea no primary school has a nurse on site. Neither do they in the three neighbouring leas.
There are 900 kids in our primary school, do they get much bigger than that?
It would be great to have one but they were all cut years ago.Even a shared one for a cluster group of schools to attend on site one day a week at each school would be positive.

mouldycheesefan Thu 24-Mar-16 06:59:31

Op it sounds like you may feel guilty in some way about the accident and think people will judge you because of it or see you as negligent in some way or even that it was deliberate harm? Is that the stigma you mean?
Even in the places lucky enough to have a school nurse, do they really have the time to sit browsing old medical records of children?
There will be kids with current needs who need the nurses help and they will be the priority I would imagine
Good luck with starting school and try not to worry!

Nobrain Thu 24-Mar-16 07:19:05

My school nurse knew that my Father killed himself when I didnt and she told me in casual conversation angry

Footle Thu 24-Mar-16 07:27:45

What school nurse ?

MigraineMartie Thu 24-Mar-16 07:39:34

Not so much guilty as it was a pure accident but it just brings back the investigation and the awful feeling that for a period of time although very small until tests were completed they weren't sure it it was accidental or not.
I know what's on the notes and it does outline the fact it was an accidental injury with no social service involvement needed past the initial assesment stage.

Witchend Thu 24-Mar-16 07:49:24

My bf is a school nurse. She covers several schools. I doubt she would know about the head injury as it happened before your dd was at school and the conclusion was accidental. The only way it would come up to her notice would be if there was another suspicious injury. She is far too busy to deal with things that happened years ago and were shown to be accidents.
However if she did see it on your notes she certainly wouldn't judge at all.

MattDillonsPants Thu 24-Mar-16 09:27:03

Mouldy It sounds like you're the one who got out of bed on the wrong side! If you read my post as passive aggressive that's your issue. Nothing to do with me.

EponasWildDaughter Thu 24-Mar-16 09:34:02

I have friends on reception at the school she will attend who don't know about it all as we hadn't met then and there's the stigma attached once you've had that suspicion against you

Anything the school nurse might see on your DDs record will be confidential. The staff on school reception will have no business with it.

I think you're imagining school staff attaching a lot of importance on this info., when in fact it's not a big deal. I mean that nicely and in the best way for you. There'll be no 'stigma'. It was years ago and over with. You'd be amazed what goes on in children's homes all through their childhood which staff have DO have to know about because they deal with the fall out first hand. Put your mind at rest. It's nothing [flower]

EponasWildDaughter Thu 24-Mar-16 09:35:04

Jesus.
flowers even smile

Technoremix Thu 24-Mar-16 09:37:53

They do have a access to health records that pertain to the child now-so they are aware of children who have conditions(hiv, diabetes, epilepsy etc). But an accidental injury 4 years ago to a child with no ongoing issues is very unlikely to have been flagged up to them. But even if it was, the receptionist would only know if they needed to know ifswim. Heath records are confidential and only shown to people who need to see them.

titchy Thu 24-Mar-16 09:43:56

School nurses aren't actually anything to do with school. School doesn't employ them, the nhs does. The nhs doesn't share records so there is no way on earth someone in a school office would have access to nhs records.

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