To think there is definitely an increase in people driving through red lights?!

(60 Posts)
FrasierCranium Fri 19-Feb-16 12:45:40

This is driving me bonkers angry

Maybe it's just around here, I dunno, but recently I have noticed more and more that people are just frankly not stopping at red lights. I mean wtf?! When did this become ok?

Most annoying in rush hour. Causes the junctions to get all snarled up.

Gives me the rage. Has anyone else noticed this?!

MadisonAvenue Fri 19-Feb-16 12:51:01

Yes, we were just talking about this the other day. It does seem to be on the increase which is a worry, and I've also noticed people ignoring red lights on pedestrian crossings too.

SweetAdeline Fri 19-Feb-16 12:53:06

It's very common where I live in Dublin. As a pedestrian I wait for the green man then wait for another car to try to sneak through, then I cross. Cyclists seem to ignore them entirely including their own little bike shape ones. It's particularly frustrating, because even if cars/bikes obey the signals, pedestrians are only given about three seconds to cross every ten minutes.

FrasierCranium Fri 19-Feb-16 12:53:27

Not even sneaking through on Amber. Just a blatant red light!

feellikeahugefailure Fri 19-Feb-16 12:54:34

Yes and no. I live somewhere with a high retirement population and I see both people jumping red lights and people making emergency stops on amber after they have started to cross the line.

SweetAdeline Fri 19-Feb-16 12:55:54

Yep. They treat amber like green and the first few seconds of red like amber.

MadisonAvenue Fri 19-Feb-16 12:56:36

Not even sneaking through on Amber. Just a blatant red light!

Yep.

Furiosa Fri 19-Feb-16 13:00:23

Yes I've noticed this a lot since DS started nursery. To get there we use a crossing that drivers think you don't need to stop at unless someone is crossing on a green man!

Most never stop when they are approaching on amber, they usually speed up and red makes no difference. It's scary.

jay55 Fri 19-Feb-16 13:06:59

Yes last night crossing the road taxi kept going even though light had been on red before he got there. I see it every week now. In queued traffic people just not looking but following the car infront.

MadisonAvenue Fri 19-Feb-16 13:15:18

Jay55, I was crossing a while ago where the traffic was queued up. I was just stepping out (green man was beeping) when the car at the front of the queue started to drive across, because the queue on the other side of the crossing started moving so she followed it.

JennyOnAPlate Fri 19-Feb-16 13:41:16

We definitely see it a lot round here (Midlands). Pedestrian crossings have apparently become an optional stop too. I walked dds to the post box the other day and we stood at the kerb to cross on a zebra crossing and 12 cars drove past before one stopped (yes I counted!)

The thought of my dc having to go out and navigate the outside works in their own in a few years makes me nervous!

JennyOnAPlate Fri 19-Feb-16 13:45:45

Outside world not works!

BrianCoxReborn Fri 19-Feb-16 13:46:14

Was having same convo with my mum the,other day.

It's as though a red light is a mere suggestion to some.

There aren't enough police on the roads, government cuts in action.

Pipbin Fri 19-Feb-16 13:46:58

Many years ago there used to be public information films about this and one of them had the tag line 'don't be an amber gambler'. The advise then was to stop on amber, which is what most people did.
These days amber seems to mean 'speed up a bit and you can make it' and if the car in front of you has gone through on amber then you can too if you are close enough to it.

Pipbin Fri 19-Feb-16 13:48:11

And I am the only person left alive who actually obeys a box junction.
I've had people beep me or cut me up when I've stopped at one.

Goadyflattery Fri 19-Feb-16 13:49:35

Happened to me this morning actually, car went straight through on red as I was crossing on pedestrian lights. He definitely didn't even notice what he had done.

Owllady Fri 19-Feb-16 13:53:53

I know re box junction and ppl not stopping at crossings

wasonthelist Fri 19-Feb-16 13:54:00

Pipbin no you aren't but I get the same. There is a particularly stupid one near me on a roundabut that also has traffic lights, if I obey it, I often get shit off the car behind; if I don't, I choke the roundabout.

onemouseplace Fri 19-Feb-16 13:54:33

I've definitely noticed this more - I'm in London and at most sets of lights you will get at least one (if not more!) car going through on red. I've got so used to it that I assume that the next car approaching changing lights will go through on red rather than stop.

MintyChapstick Fri 19-Feb-16 13:55:44

YANBU. There's also been a massive increase in people who don't bother to idincate at roundabouts and junctions. I think it's a reflection on how selfish society has become.

Owllady Fri 19-Feb-16 13:55:45

A lollipop lady got run over on a crossing before christmas. V badly injured sad then week after it happenedto her replacement shock

wasonthelist Fri 19-Feb-16 13:56:13

Ps sure I will get told off for this, but you do know you can go onto a box junction if you're turning right across traffic and the only thing stopping you is oncoming traffic? If not that could be why people are expecting you to move onto it.

SweetAdeline Fri 19-Feb-16 14:00:13

I was going to ask if it still happened in London despite all the enforcement cameras (or is that just central London?).

MadameDePompom Fri 19-Feb-16 14:04:27

YANBU

This seems to be happening more and more.

A car did this to me yesterday and I caught up with them and gave them a stern 'YOU'RE MEANT TO STOP AT THE RED LIGHT YOU FOOL'. They pretended they couldn't see me or hear me.

<still grumpy>

Draylon Fri 19-Feb-16 14:15:20

I left the UK in about 1985, returning in 2005-ish; and I really noticed that the standard of driving has fallen in general. It's red light running, it's middle land hogging, it's not letting people in off side streets.

It's only the proliferation of speed cameras and black boxes that has begun to make people slow down (though I think the speed camera is responsible for people caring less about points on licenses- it used to be a point of pride, a 'clean' license, but now so many good drivers have a few points, it's lost its kudos- 3 points barely affects your insurance!- and I do mean 'good'. Speed, itself, doesn't kill; the inappropriate use of speed can).

I am also going to stick my neck out here and suggest that there might be a link between the number of non-UK trained drivers on the roads and this.

It's not just people who learned to drive in more laissez-faire environments who are 'to blame', it's to do with 'critical mass'. There comes a tipping point where if an erstwhile 'good' driver sees enough poor driving not only going unpunished but even un-remarked upon, it's become so commonplace, they'll subconsciously starting to doing it as well. Til everyone's running red lights as 'the norm'.

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