to think that women should just accept that they are selfish and that everything they do is wrong?

[youmustbekidding]

Let's look at the objective facts. If you're single but want to be married, you're all about trapping some poor man and therefore selfishly denying him his freedom, if you're single but don't want to be married, you're a ball-breaker, poss a lesbian, and definitely a man-hater and selfishly unnatural. If you're sexually active on top of that, then you're also a slut. If you want to have kids, you are selfishly listening to your own biological needs; if you don't want to have kids you are selfishly prioritising three trips to long-haul destinations each year over your biological imperative and anyway who will wipe your arse when you're 93? Having kids in itself opens up an entire vista of selfishness - if you're young when you have them, you're irresponsible and selfishly thinking of your own gratification over the financial security of your offspring. If you wait until you're older then you will selfishly bleed the nhs dry single-handedly due to the multiple medical complications you will encounter, plus you will probably die before your kids reach the age of 5 which is of course, you guessed, selfish.

And it doesn't stop there. If you have one child only, they will be weird and introverted and possibly be a serial killer. You have therefore raised a serial killer due to your selfish desire to take control of your fertility. More than one, and don't you know that there's a population crisis, and how dare you add more humans to the already suffering and overcrowded planet, you selfish bitch. If you breastfeed any of your one or many children, you're doing it for yourself really, but if you bottle-feed you might as well inject them with heroin.

As soon as you've pushed the baby out of your vagina (or had him/her cut through your stomach, which is obviously what the really selfish women do, due to them selfishly opting for major abdominal surgery which leaves them unable to pick up so much as a measuring jug for six weeks due to being too posh to push), the fun starts all over again with considering whether or not go to back to work. This is obviously less of a consideration for men, who are either providing for their family (heroes) or looking after their family (heroes). If a woman wants to provide for her family, she is a cold-hearted bitch career woman and nobody knows why she even had children if all she wanted to do is farm them out to strangers. On the other hand, if she wants to stay at home, she's a sponger and why the fuck did she bother going to university anyway.

Anything I've missed?

[LotsOfShoes]

You sound angry, OP. I have no idea what kind of people you're hanging out with or what you're reading but you need to make a change. I very very rarely hear that kind of crap.

[OurBlanche]

Step away from the Daily Mail... step away!

[LotsOfShoes]

In fact, I think I only ever see it on the Internet or the Daily Fail. I don't think I've ever heard any of that from friends or family.

[BalloonSlayer]

I thought that was great! Spot on. But don't know whether to or

[HermioneWeasley]

Yes, you've missed the fact that now if we talk about any of that, particularly anything to do with our biology then you are ERASING and EXCLUDING Transwomen and that is LITERALLY the same thing as violence.

Also, that if we are raped it is our fault for being drunk, dressing provocatively, or being within a 10 meter radius of a man.

That where girls are finally starting to perform better across the board in school, this is a national outrage that boys are falling behind.

That if you get pregnant it's entirely the woman's fault. And if you keep it and the guy didn't want a baby it's completely unreasonable that you have more of a say over what happens to your body than he does.

If you're a stay at home mum you're a parasite, sponging off your partner and wasting your education. If you return to work you're a cold mother and why did you bother having kids. And if you're in a senior role, you're probably quite "masculine" or a "ball breaker".

[CaptainCrunch]

Wow, some misogynistic arsehole has really done a number on you op, get better friends / partners and stop reading shitty newspaper articles.

[NotQuiteSoOnEdge]

Scarily, depressingly true.

[StealthPolarBear]

I suspect you've missed loads op but I loved your post :o
As soon as my two could hold a pen I had them sign a contract (shakey X) that they'll wipe my bum when I'm 93. So I'm covered on that :o

[StealthPolarBear]

I believe you may have missed an entire rant about what we do or don't wear and whether how we look pleases the men around usm

[PacificDogwod]

Oh, I do love a bit of hyperbole to make a point

You are not wrong, OP

[AlpacaLypse]

Consider the 'Like' button that we haven't got on this site well and truly pressed OP!

[AndNowItsSeven]

Op I don't know if you meant it to be funny but it really was. You should start a blog.

[QueenLaBeefah]

Completely agree

If you refuse to be a full time carer for elderly parents you are selfish. If you look after elderly parents you are a martyr and, therefore, selfish.

[Slowlygettingthehangofthings]

Lol yes AlpacaLypse I am new to MN and I was looking for the like button

[ImperialBlether]

Very, very funny and unfortunately true.

[MrsBobDylan]

Yanbu. Lots of your op crops up in mn debates too, especially the way we polarise the working mum/ sahm position, much of which is divisive bullshit.

[BonitaFangita]

Have you been reading the Daily Mail?

[Sallystyle]

No one in my real life has ever made me feel this way, but reading threads on MN sure makes me feel that way.

Don't forget that if you object to teens drawing pictures of jizzing cocks and writing 'nice tits' it's your fault so many men are gender confused.

[Dragonsdaughter]

God forbid if you become a single mum - then the shit really hits the fan and you are responsible for every famine and natural disaster thats ever happened.

[Valentine2]

What did you drink and where? How much?

[Katenka]

There are people out there that think like that.

However if you think that's how most people think, you need a new circle of people to mix with.

[Valentine2]

Sorry, I should have explained: I would say that to anyone who tries to tell me what you wrote in your post.

[PurportedFeminist]

Spot on

And never mind the Daily Mail, a lot of that guff gets touted on MN.