to put my 4yr old back in nighttime pull ups?

(27 Posts)
Allisgood1 Thu 07-Jan-16 09:05:17

Or will I have a 20 year old in pull ups??

Dd2 was 4 in November. We tried starting Monday to remove pull ups at night. She's wet 2/3 nights. She's actually wetting and not even waking. I have removed drinks from 6pm (she goes to bed at 8), tried rewards etc, and lifting her before we go to bed (last night she had already wet by then!).

AIBU to give up so early and try again in a few months?

PolterGoose Thu 07-Jan-16 09:09:24

Put her back in nappies/pull-ups. Night dryness cannot be trained, and depends on the production of enough vasopressin to suppress kidney function in sleep. In most children this will happen by the time they are 7.

dementedpixie Thu 07-Jan-16 09:09:57

You can't really train for night time as it is reliant on them producing a hormone that suppresses urine during the night. It also relies on them waking with the sensation of a full bladder. Doctors won't even bother about night wetting until around the age of 8 as it is very common.

Go back to pull ups for the time being to save you all stress

Marzipants Thu 07-Jan-16 09:11:29

My DS (4) is still in pull ups. If she's still wetting and not waking it does suggest she's not ready. Save her the broken nights and you the laundry.

Were her pull ups consistently dry when you decided to remove them or were you going that removing them would encourage her to be dry?

PhoenixReisling Thu 07-Jan-16 09:12:29

DC at 4 1/2 are still in pull ups. Until there are consistently dry pull ups then I will continue to put them in them.

TheWordOfBagheera Thu 07-Jan-16 09:17:23

Not at all unreasonable to try later, many are not dry at night at much older and it doesn't matter a jot. Nor would it be unreasonable to perservere now.

My DS is a similar age to your DD and will wet a pull-up at night unless we take him for a wee about 11pm. To start with we figured out the time he was first weeing (about 9.30pm) and gradually eeked it later. Only rarely catches us out now, but we're still in no rush to remove the pull-ups!

Iloveonionchutney Thu 07-Jan-16 09:26:16

My dd has just turned five and is still in pull-ups, she doesn't wake up with a need to go yet so is still going in her sleep. It'll happen one day when their ready.

aurorie11 Thu 07-Jan-16 09:32:34

I would put her back in pulls up, my eldest has recently stopped at 7 yrs and 3 months; younger sibling stopped pulls up at night practically at the same time they were dry in the day. The view I had with eldest was they would do when they were ready, they didn't wake if they had an accident, its not the worth the hassle of wet bedding if they're not ready

witsender Thu 07-Jan-16 09:33:41

My 5 yr old is still in nighttime pull ups, we have no concerns about her.

RatherBeRiding Thu 07-Jan-16 11:21:20

Not all unreasonable. Neither of my DCs were reliably dry at night at that age and we used night time pull-ups for ages. Saves a lot of stress. And washing!

Thurlow Thu 07-Jan-16 11:27:16

No unreasonable at all. DD went dry at night by herself at 3.5 but now at nearly 4 we've gone back to pull ups as she was wetting the bed maybe twice a week first thing in the morning. We all hated the wet bed and she felt like she'd done something wrong.

Bigger things to worry about.

JimmyGreavesMoustache Thu 07-Jan-16 11:30:03

dd1 did not have one single dry night until a month before her fifth birthday, and was then dry every single night thereafter. we did no night training at all. for the vast majority of kids it does happen without training, some are just a little later than others.

as an aside I always assumed how deep they sleep is a big factor. dd1 has always slept so soundly you could parade a mariachi band through her room and she wouldn't stir. dd2 has always woken at the slightest whisper, and was dry at night by 2.5.

pottymummy Thu 07-Jan-16 11:34:09

My nearly 9 year old and 6 year old DS's are still in pullups. I don't see the problem AT ALL. She is still tiny.

DS1 is on a strict routine now advised by the enuresis specialist at the hospital. Its working most of the time, and he has the hormones to supplement. He is not allowed to drink anything after 6.30pm. During the day he has a routine that we need to stick to (basically, he needs to drink at every meal time and every break time and also to use the toilet afterwards whether he feels that he needs it or not. At bedtime he needs to wee twice so we usually ask him to go after his bath/shower and then just after lights out)

Iwonderwhy123 Thu 07-Jan-16 11:37:10

Not unreasonable at all, it's not something she can control at this age so just pop the pull-ups on at night. Try again in a few weeks if she's starting to be dry at least mostbifvthe nights.

Freeranginggirls Thu 07-Jan-16 11:39:07

DS wore pull ups until he was almost 8 and he said he was ready to go without. Though did wonder for long time whether he was ever going to be ready. Went to dr when DS was 6 and he said wouldn't investigate until child was 8 plus for any concerns.

onitlikeacarbonnet Thu 07-Jan-16 11:47:53

Ds has just turned 6 and still in pull ups. He's a very heavy sleeper.
Recently we've had a few dry pull ups in the morning but no pattern to it so I'm just assuming that it'll happen by itself. I'm not worried but it's on my radar. My mil likes to have her say though as DH and his dsis were dry before nursery age. Must be my fault then hmm
Dd was dry, day and night within a couple of days at 3. No training involved in the night. She is not as heavy a sleeper as ds but never wakes for a wee. Often she has breakfast before going in the morning too.

DesertOrDessert Thu 07-Jan-16 11:49:37

Pullups all the way.
Nighttime dryness (or lack of) not an issue til 7yrs, and is not trainable for.

DixieNormas Thu 07-Jan-16 11:53:29

ds3 still has pull ups at night and he's nearly 5. He just isn't ready at night yet.

tinyterrors Thu 07-Jan-16 12:09:06

Definitely back in pull ups. As pp have said you can't train for nighttime dryness. Ds1 was 6 before he stopped wetting the bed, it was down to once or twice a week from about 5 but it still took him a while. My dds were both dry when they were 4.

Personally I've not worried too much about being dry at nighttime as it's not something they can control or learn, it's whether their body makesenough vasopressin that controls it. Just keep trying every few weeks and she'll get there eventually.

Mari50 Thu 07-Jan-16 12:12:37

Not unreasonable at all. As previous poster said you can't train night time dryness, it's hormonally controlled and will come when it comes. My DD was in pull up until she was 5 (toilet trained at 2.5), she sleeps like a brick and often wouldn't wake with the wet. I did try bed pads in the hope that she'd be more aware-nope, just lots of extra laundry there- although they were a god send when she had projectile vomitting in bed, totally saved the mattress, inadvertently. DD is almost 7 now and still very occasionally wets the bed but not often enough to justify pull ups.

JonSnowKnowsNowt Thu 07-Jan-16 12:15:43

Yes, back in pull-ups. My 4.5 year old DD is in night-time pull-ups even though both her brothers were out of them by the age of 3. She is also seeing a doctor for daytime wetting. He is utterly unconcerned about the night-time thing.

If your DD has persistent daytime wetting problems (like mine does), then I think addressing that is important. But night-time wetting isn't considered a problem until after the age of 7.

The only reason to take her out of night-time pull-ups now would be if you enjoy a lot of laundry and don't mind her sleeping in a wet, smelly bed!

Micah Thu 07-Jan-16 12:25:54

What they all said smile

You can't train night dryness. Mine were both in night nappies until just before 7. Both were dry easily in the day at 2.5.

Stop limiting drinks for now too. As well as the hormones shutting down urine production at night, the need to get the biofeedback process where a stretching bladder wakes them up.

One of mine was just dry all night, the other learned to wake up for a wee before they could go through the night.

Save yourself the hassle and washing..

DMCWelshCakes Thu 07-Jan-16 13:42:57

DiddyCakes is 4.8 and has just gone back into pull ups at night for the same reason. Wasn't fair on him or us. He now has about 2 dry nights a week.

It'll happen when it happens I guess. (Is much later than DiddyDragon was & has been dry in the day for years.)

MrsHooolie Thu 07-Jan-16 14:16:48

DS (5years 5months) is trying without pull ups this week.
1st night he wet the bed twice even tho we lifted him.
2nd he wanted to wear a pull up!
Last night,a dry night (lifted him).

This thread is very comforting!

Micah Thu 07-Jan-16 14:26:41

Also, "lifting" can be counter-productive. They dont learn to wake in response to a full bladder, which is vital, and it can teach them to pee in their sleep, unless you fully wake them and make them go to the toilet themselves.

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