Christianity and Halloween: is heaven really going to be full of "true Christians" moaning about how wrong Halloween is....

(222 Posts)
m0therofdragons Sat 31-Oct-15 17:11:07

ISIS is wrong, Halloween is just kids having fun. It really doesn't matter where it originates from. Currently people seem to enjoy popping on a costume, spending time with the family carving pumpkins and eating sweets.

I'm Christian although it seems I'm a terrible one as dc aren't attending a "light party"- which appears to be many churches' way of making money out of Halloween, and we'll be giving trick or treaters sweets when they knock.
I can't help feeling heaven is going to be full of dull kill joys.

redgoldandgreen Sat 31-Oct-15 17:21:42

godandpoliticsuk.org/2013/10/09/halloween-harmless-or-harmful/

redgoldandgreen Sat 31-Oct-15 17:23:40

You might believe it is harmless fun, others don't. I personally think it makes the Devil, demons and witchcraft seem like harmless fun when I believe they are in fact quite dangerous. I also don't think it's healthy for my children and glorifies the dark side of life...has anybody actually said that you are a terrible Christian or not going to Heaven?

WorraLiberty Sat 31-Oct-15 17:23:54

I hope there's no Wifi in heaven.

There's enough Halloween moaners to keep us going on earth...

m0therofdragons Sat 31-Oct-15 17:27:53

It's been implied.
There are many evils in the world. To me the vulgarity of Christmas and the money spent is far worse than Halloween.

ghostyslovesheep Sat 31-Oct-15 17:29:04

YANBU My mum is a Christian - very involved in church life and she bloody loves Halloween grin

Some more evangelical folk want us to think everything we do is evil - especially the fun stuff

ilovesooty Sat 31-Oct-15 18:16:02

I loathe both Halloween and Christmas. I'm not a Christian and I don't believe in heaven.
<misses point>

MajesticSeaFlapFlap Sat 31-Oct-15 18:18:22

My local church are holding a massive Halloween party tonight.

The vicars dressed as a zombie vicar

hackmum Sat 31-Oct-15 18:20:56

"Isis is wrong".

I don't think you'll find many disagreeing with you there. smile

SantanaLopez Sat 31-Oct-15 18:25:05

I have a very devout neighbour with 7 kids between 25 and 3 who goes to chapel every morning etc etc.

She's decorated her porch and was wearing a fetching witch outfit earlier thlsmile

Gruntfuttock Sat 31-Oct-15 18:26:27

I'm with ilovesooty

AshleyWilkes Sat 31-Oct-15 18:28:53

If you're Christian then surely you believe what the Bible says and my understanding is the Bible clearly tells us that Halloween is wrong.

Nicknamegrief Sat 31-Oct-15 18:30:10

I find it hard to believe that it's the difference between whether one 'celebrates' Halloween or not that keeps a person out of Heaven ..... am pretty convinced that there are bigger issues at play such as loving ones neighbour and avoiding judging others will have a bigger impact on that result!

ahbollocks Sat 31-Oct-15 18:32:12

I don't like it. I was raised Catholic so maybe I've still got a bit of the fear instilled in me grin

I just absolutely hate the fake blood on little children. Genuinely makes me feel sick. I don't mind a cute little pumpkin outfit but a friend of mine is posting pictures of her five year of in a scream mask waggling a plastic machete around and it just looks horrible.

EndoplasmicReticulum Sat 31-Oct-15 18:33:14

My children go to a CofE primary, their new headteacher won't have anything Halloweeny going on at school. He changed what used to be the "Halloween disco" to a "half term disco" for example.

Bunbaker Sat 31-Oct-15 18:34:45

"I personally think it makes the Devil, demons and witchcraft seem like harmless fun when I believe they are in fact quite dangerous."

Do you seriously believe this? Really?

"I also don't think it's healthy for my children and glorifies the dark side of life."

But most people don't. Because they don't believe this they feel that it is harmless fun.

I am a Christian, but I don't believe all the twaddle that goes with Halloween, therefore I think it is harmless fun. We even went trick or treating with the vicar's wife and children one year.

I think you need to lighten up.

hackmum Sat 31-Oct-15 18:36:31

Ashley: "If you're Christian then surely you believe what the Bible says and my understanding is the Bible clearly tells us that Halloween is wrong."

Given that Hallowe'en hadn't been invented when the Bible was written, I think we can fairly safely say that you're wrong.

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter Sat 31-Oct-15 18:38:22

I'm sorry but 'zombie vicar' thlgrin

CuttedUpPear Sat 31-Oct-15 18:41:30

The devil is dangerous?

You know he's not real, right?

And witches were women who were persecuted by their own communities for living alone/being handy with herbs/having warty noses....you do KNOW this, right?

jorahmormont Sat 31-Oct-15 18:41:42

I've done nothing for Halloween this year other than put DD in a cute skeleton outfit (clearly glorifying exposed bones, how demonic of me) so it looks like this year I'm going to heaven.

Next year I'll be dressed up and off my tits so I'm going to make the most of my temporary holiness grin

All this talk of "glorifying the devil" and "celebrating all things dark" just reminds me of my friend at school. Her mum wouldn't let her read Harry Potter because, and I quote, "magic is a miracle, and only God can perform miracles".

<vom>

AshleyWilkes Sat 31-Oct-15 18:42:23

hackmum
Halloween originated from "Samhein" the Celtic festival.
The Bible mentions several things that are offensive and "disgusting" to God, including witchcraft and making yourself a part of it.
The Bible clearly indicates being a part of modern day Halloween is something that Christians should not be part of. There's a scripture also in Isaiah I think that says the origins of a holiday matters to God.

SongBird16 Sat 31-Oct-15 18:45:31

One of my neighbours is a Christian - her kids don't celebrate Halloween in any way and were not allowed to read Harry Potter. When I asked what her objection to HP was she said that it glorified magic, which was not godly. But they are huge Lord of the Rings fans, which is surely similar - wizards, magic, sorcery and so on. I don't know, all seems a bit inconsistent to me.

hackmum Sat 31-Oct-15 18:45:51

OK, Ashley. Let me explain something to you. You know you have these things called novels, and the stuff in them isn't true? It's, you know, made up?

Well, Hallowe'en is like that. There are no actual witches involved. That's because witches don't exist. It's such a bunch of kids dressing up and having fun.

Hope that helps.

Kacie123 Sat 31-Oct-15 18:46:48

I grew up in a very strict Christian household like redgoldandgreen's. I would have recited her words faithfully as a child too, like a total idiot. I look back with real horror and total bemusement at my childhood, and can't wait to have kids of my own and celebrate things like Halloween with relish.

Homeless tramps and prostitutes were welcomed into our home and left alone with us sometimes. Scared the shit out of us kids and treated us like dirt, but we had to be kind to the poor didn't we.

Very random and horrible people to dinner every week, but we had to be giving and loving and forgiving didn't we.

Sex and masturbation are sins, so was taught to be disgusted over innate urges, and then was abused by a church member as a teen too - but we have to forgive don't we, and hadn't I invited it by being alone with them in a youth club, hmm?

Had no friends early on and was called a "Jesus girl" at primary school, and was told I would be "rewarded in heaven instead".

Meanwhile - dressing up in a mask and saying trick or treat at friends houses? You're inviting demons in and making kids think it's ok to do witchcraft <shrieks with outrage>.

Bullshit.

I seriously think that organised religion which is being run by people without a sense of perspective or humour is far more dangerous than wearing a silly costume for one night a year.

RobinHumphries Sat 31-Oct-15 18:48:20

But that's the same as saying Christmas and Easter are based on pagan festivals.

Halloween is All Hallows' Eve - a Christian festival ( well as Christian as Christmas and Easter)

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