To think this woman is ridiculous

(24 Posts)
Warriorsoftheworld Tue 06-Oct-15 17:20:19

So 1 day after the horror of the 5p bag charge and there are still posts swimming around Facebook with people moaning about it. I was on one of these posts commenting about how its going to charity and its helping wildlife -the government- etc etc and this woman pops up waying "i re use my carrier bags as bin bags now im going to have to spend a fortune in actual bin bags" to which me and plenty of other commenters pointed out that if she actually bothered to recycle her carboard and plastics etc, she mentioned further up thread she likes to lump everything together in the black bin in bags, that she'd be able to halve the amount of space even render the black bin useless if she recycled everything accordingly to which she replied "i ain't spending time touching manky rubbish it all goes in a bin bag in one bin global warming and landfills are a myth anyway " shockconfusedhmm i left it there it was already a bunfight when i last commented this morning
AIBU to think she had no right complaining if she isn't even doing anything to control her waste management? Where i live we have
Paper/cardboard box
Plastics box
Glass box
Green bin for garden waste
Black bin for anything else
Unfortunately no food waste bin yet
I don't even use bin bags anymore as everything has it own place within those boxes and bins and they get hosed out by a local man for £2 a week after bin collection day.
What is the recycling stance in other parts of the UK and what do you do ? brew

Welshmaenad Tue 06-Oct-15 17:23:25

Landfill is a myth???

Ain't no arguing with stupid.

Warriorsoftheworld Tue 06-Oct-15 17:26:03

Its why i stopped commenting she obviously thinks the rubbish fairy magics it away or something hmm

InimitableJeeves Tue 06-Oct-15 17:29:05

Whilst there are all sorts of arguments about climate change, there is quite a large subset amongst those who don't believe it exists who take that stance purely because it suits their convenience. If climate change dictated a need to bung everything into the same bin bag she would be an enthusiastic believer.

I can't claim to be a glutton for work, I'm definitely in the slut class when it comes to housework, but even I can't see what the problem is when it comes to recycling. It takes no longer to chuck stuff in the recycling box than it does to put it in the bin, nor is it any more difficult to put out recycling for collection than rubbish.

MaxPepsi Tue 06-Oct-15 17:31:44

I try to recycle absolutely everything. And I take our glass to a local supermarket/pub car park as we don't have collection for that.

I have however been told by numerous different people that our recycling doesn't in fact get recycled at all but gets either dumped in landfill or sold overseas!

And I no longer wash my bottles or colour sort them after watching a programme where all the glass was chucked in together and washed again. I prefer to save time and water now!

RandomMess Tue 06-Oct-15 17:32:18

That landfill comment is priceless!!!

We've moved to an area where the recycling is poor compared to our previous borough and it's very irritating tbh.

Witchend Tue 06-Oct-15 17:34:59

I do take a bit of her point. I don't always remember my bags for life, so I get a free bag. That bag will then be used 3-4 times before it finishes up as a bin bag.
I may end up buying a roll of bin bags, which will probably just be used as bin bags. Which seems more unenvironmentally friendly,and a little bit silly.

But we do recycle most things here, and what the bin men don't take, I take to the tip to recycle.

GoblinLittleOwl Tue 06-Oct-15 17:37:39

I would like a specific breakdown of the charities the 4p per carrier bag goes to; helping the environment and wildlife is far too vague.

I thought the whole purpose of the charge was to inhibit the use of plastic carriers, so why not replace them with paper??

Warriorsoftheworld Tue 06-Oct-15 17:43:01

I have read that charities local to the supermarket's can apply to benefit from the funds not sure if this is true
Yes immitablejeeves someone on my wavelength! Actually takes me less time to recycle than it does not to

DoJo Tue 06-Oct-15 17:52:15

I thought the whole purpose of the charge was to inhibit the use of plastic carriers, so why not replace them with paper??

Surely it's to encourage people to use bags which will last for longer than plastic and produce less waste - paper bags wouldn't achieve that, and would just produce a different type of waste needing to be dealt with.

Drew64 Tue 06-Oct-15 17:52:56

I'm all for reducing out waste and we recycle a lot but there is always a load of things that can't be recycled by our local authority, mainly certain plastics, blister packs etc.
We did use shopping bags as rubbish bags for non recycling but will have to pick up some bin bags now.

Oh and our local Tesco's were not charging for 'Bags for Life' yesterday...result!

Garrick Tue 06-Oct-15 18:05:17

I'm with her on the carrier bags. Until this week, I used them to collect my recycling (goes in one bin) thus ensuring that bag gets processed and I'm not generating an extra need for plastic bags. As she says, it'll now be more economical for me to buy a roll of bags I wouldn't otherwise - it'll cost me more and probably mean more plastic gets used in the long run.
It's a daft idea, except for plastic bag manufacturers.

HesterShaw Tue 06-Oct-15 18:12:36

Facebook - the haunt of the unreasonable and terminally thick.

What on earth does carrier bag waste have to do with "global warming"? (does she mean man made climate change?)

Can't believe the stupid fuss people in England are making about this. People in other countries are utterly bemused by it.

Gatehouse77 Tue 06-Oct-15 18:13:27

We do recycle and try to reduce our waste.
I do believe in climate change. However, I believe humankind has speeded up a natural process that would take place anyway.

My biggest bugbear is the 'save the planet' mantra. It's not to save the planet - it can look after itself very well as has been shown from the past.

It's to save the human race. And possibly the animals, birds, etc. But not the planet.

InimitableJeeves Tue 06-Oct-15 18:19:03

I'm ancient enough to remember when it was routine to charge for bags. I recall people grumbling that they had to pay to advertise the shops concerned, but otherwise we all took it for granted, and the inner puritan in me didn't really approve when free bags came in. I've been reusing bags for ages anyway to get whatever pittance they give you by way of Nectar points etc, so it really doesn't bother me.

JustRosieHere Tue 06-Oct-15 18:27:13

Could she not just buy some bags for 5p each and still use them as bin bags therefore cheaper than big bin bags? Seriously how many bin bags is she planning on using a week. Or ask people for them, if anyone wants my drawer of hoarded carrier bags feel free.

AnyoneButAndre Tue 06-Oct-15 18:30:55

Don't just take people's word for it about what does and does not happen to your rubbish and recycling - a little research on your own council's website should reveal pretty quickly what happens to what refuse in your local area. Ours gets sorted and recycled locally for the most part in very high tech plants but some of the plastics go back to China using the return journeys of the empty ships that brought us our Christmas tat.

Pengweng Tue 06-Oct-15 18:40:11

She's an idiot but i know loads of people who just can't be arsed to throw a can in the right bin.

Living in Trafford, Greater Manc we have:

Normal sized green bin for garden/food waste.
Collected weekly.

Slimline grey bin for all other household waste.
Collected fortnightly.

Normal size black bin for plastic/glass/tins.
Normal sized blue bin for paper/cardboard.
Both collected monthly.

I recycle everything i can as the small grey bin for a family of four is a tight squeeze if i don't. I have a two segmented laundry hamper that is used as my recycling bin, one part for paper, one for plastic/glass/tins and it gets emptied into the outside bins once a week before collection. Even my DTs know where their used paper goes. We have a caddy at the back door for food waste that gets emptied every few days.

muttleydosomething Tue 06-Oct-15 18:40:49

It's not just about overuse of plastics in the manufacturing process but about what happens to them afterwards. Anyone here seen the newsreel showing fish and other marine life needlessly dying by getting stuck in enormous drifts of plastic bag waste that is also swimming around in oceans worldwide? That is why M&S had the "Forever Fish" slogan puts on their 5p plastic bags some years ago.

Sorry if it sounds sanctimonious but I think it is pretty easy to survive without them. Paperchase sell really good fabric bags that are strong, can carry loads of stuff and fold down to the size of a pair of child's socks. I always carry one in my pocket. The mystery is that it takes legislation to get most people to bother.

captaincake Tue 06-Oct-15 18:56:00

Very jealous of pengweng's recycling bins. We get 1 recycling bin and it pretty much just takes cardboard and plastic bottles (only bottles - not any other plastic packaging (confused) )

I do see her point about having to buy bin liners instead of using free bags but she's missing the bigger picture and the rest it is just crap. Landfill a myth? grin

Minesril Tue 06-Oct-15 19:01:56

She is an idiot, but I am annoyed at the charge for basically the same reason: I use the bags as bin bags. I recycle everything that can be recycled but will now need to spend extra in order to throw stuff out that can't be recycled! The really annoying thing is that I don't drive, I don't have a dishwasher, try and have one 'meat free' day etc. But some government official has decided that my carbon footprint still needs to be curbed!

What we really need to do to curb climate change which would do more than charging for plastic bags, is to convince people that in many cases, they really, really don't need to drive everywhere. That is what is fucking up the planet, but point that out and it's all about human rights or whatever.

TheStripyGruffalo Tue 06-Oct-15 19:05:47

We recycle 50% of our rubbish, in the kitchen we have two bins and all the recycling goes in one and all the landfill stuff in the other. At least, it is supposed to, I'm not convinced that DH or the DCs recycle everything as both bins are always full when it's the bin collection day. We recycle paper and glass plus plastic milk bottles and other plastics that say they can be recycled, food waste goes in the compost bin as we're vegetarians so there is no meat/fish going in the landfill bin.

DoJo Tue 06-Oct-15 19:14:13

I use the bags as bin bags. I recycle everything that can be recycled but will now need to spend extra in order to throw stuff out that can't be recycled! The really annoying thing is that I don't drive, I don't have a dishwasher, try and have one 'meat free' day etc. But some government official has decided that my carbon footprint still needs to be curbed!

They've decided EVERYBODY'S use needs to be curbed - they can't introduce a levy that only applies to people who aren't intending to re-use their carrier bags as bin bags, or eat meat every day.

Garrick Tue 06-Oct-15 20:32:32

Sorry if it sounds sanctimonious but I think it is pretty easy to survive without them.

Well, yeah, of course it's easy to survive without them confused

I will start taking my lightweight rucksack around with me for shopping - it's not a pretty sight, but practical. And I will buy rolls of lightweight bin liners to replace the carrier bags. The planet/fish will benefit not a jot, but the people who make the bags will see an uplift in sales.

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