Men, fire, toxic materials and kids [Rant alert]

(26 Posts)
acatcalledjohn Sun 30-Aug-15 23:42:10

Ok, I doubt I am BU, but really just need to vent about the sheer stupidity of some twunts I encountered today.

Went to a BBQ where several kids were present (aged 3-8), and after a while an incinerator was filled with branches, doused in white spirit (whatever is wrong with paper to start a fire?), and set alight...

...WITH THE FUCKING PLASTIC BOTTLE ON TOP! angry

So I suggested they really don't want to be burning plastic. Told "it'll be alright". Then more plastic got put in, so I turned to the host (my friend) and pointed out that plastic is really rather toxic when burned and thus you really don't want to burn it, especially with kids running around the place. So she told the guys to stop doing it. Her LO ran in the direction of the fumes, so I ran and grabbed her and took her away from the fumes.

But you know, men and fire is just one of those combinations where testosterone seems to take away any remaining brain cells. Despite being told to stop doing it, one twunt kept adding plastic things like shrink wrap. When the empty polystyrene meat packaging was chucked in as well, we decided enough was enough.

Rather than spoiling the party which I almost did I quietly told my friend we were leaving because I refused to stand around a bunch of dicks creating toxic fumes around kids.

What I didn't mention was that I took offense to the heavily pregnant woman smoking, and the not so heavily pregnant woman smoking but also talking about how she couldn't eat certain cheeses etc as they may harm the baby hmm

Some people really fucking boil my piss with their idiotic behaviour.

Helpmeoutofthemaze Sun 30-Aug-15 23:44:39

You were right to leave. Pretty dumb to burn all that plastic stuff. Poor neighbours, at least you were able to leave!

WorraLiberty Sun 30-Aug-15 23:46:14

Sexist twunts boil mine but there ya go.

321TeachUs Sun 30-Aug-15 23:48:42

Same, Worra

LazyLohan Sun 30-Aug-15 23:53:53

I doubt a few burnt plastic bottles and a bit of polythene were going to gas you all in the open air.

acatcalledjohn Mon 31-Aug-15 00:11:07

I'm not suggesting that, but with young kids running around through the fumes (excitedly run in to the smoke) I would argue it wasn't the most sensible thing.

My OP makes me sexist?

WorraLiberty Mon 31-Aug-15 00:16:26

But you know, men and fire is just one of those combinations where testosterone seems to take away any remaining brain cells.

What part of that ^^ isn't sexist? confused

They were inconsiderate people. That has nothing to do with what they posses between their legs.

My DH is perfectly capable of starting fires responsibly, just like my Dad, my brothers and my sons.

GiddyOnZackHunt Mon 31-Aug-15 00:22:16

Your friend was complicit in the twattery. YWNBU to leave somewhere you felt uncomfortable but blaming it on being men is U. They were fools and only fools throw crap on a BBQ.

Paintpot22 Mon 31-Aug-15 00:25:09

YABU, very common to burn BBQ rubbish during the BBQ. We have a fire pit alongside, everything gets burned on it. By men and women.

DC aren't going to fall down dead from breathing in possibly polluted air for 0.1 seconds

acatcalledjohn Mon 31-Aug-15 00:28:10

Fucking hell. Even my DP (male) hinted at the hormone driven idiocy.

But ok. I'll be sexist. That's fine. They obviously were the twunts that fit the stereotype, and I know plenty don't.

At least I wasn't acting like an idiot.

WorraLiberty Mon 31-Aug-15 00:32:45

So your DP thinks it's down to hormones too, rather than twattery?

Please tell me that when you get annoyed with him, he doesn't ask if you're on a period?

YANBU though in the sense that it was an inconsiderate and stupid thing to do, no matter who decided to do it.

littledrummergirl Mon 31-Aug-15 00:36:49

Yanbu. Our ndn love a good fire, we have seen white spirit in bottles, cardboard, soft drinks bottles, batteries, a tv (which sounded as though a bomb had gone off when it exploded) a garden shed complete with felt roof which smouldered for three days straight as well as newspapers and other household waste.
Twists! angry

rembrandtsrockchick Mon 31-Aug-15 07:04:33

We attended a friend's bonfire party a few years ago. Friend's DH went off and returned with a 10ft GRP dinghy on a fork lift and dropped it on top of the blazing bonfire. The smoke and fumes were unbelievable. I am asthmatic and there were several children present. We left.

Insanity can be medicated. Ignorance can be educated, but there is no cure for stupidity.

DoreenLethal Mon 31-Aug-15 07:34:02

YABU, very common to burn BBQ rubbish during the BBQ. We have a fire pit alongside, everything gets burned on it. By men and women.

People like you are the reason that people like me end up nearly or sometimes dying - plastic fumes are noxious and toxic and for those of us with weak lungs it can actually kill us. What the fuck do you think you are doing?

Mrsmorton Mon 31-Aug-15 07:52:42

Doreen perhaps you should steer clear of BBQs and bonfires. And London as the air quality is apparently very poor here.

OP, you're being a bit dramatic IMO.

BumpTheElephant Mon 31-Aug-15 08:01:25

They sound a bit lacking in common sense but that has nothing to do with their sex. Yanbu to think the fire wasn't a good idea around children but yabu for ranting about "men".

Happfeet2911 Mon 31-Aug-15 08:38:18

How the fuck did we all get to reach adulthood, a few bits of plastic on a bonfire?? It's not mustard gas!

DoreenLethal Mon 31-Aug-15 08:54:34

Doreen perhaps you should steer clear of BBQs and bonfires. And London as the air quality is apparently very poor here.

Or - people should just burn material that is fit for burning. You do know that fumes move through air don't you. Why should anyone have to avoid BBQs and bonfires just because other people are complete arseholes?

I use fires all the time - I have a woodburner and build Earth Ovens for a living. We light it nearly every week and I teach young people how to light and cook with fire.

Plastic has no place on a fire. Ever.

How the fuck did we all get to reach adulthood, a few bits of plastic on a bonfire?? It's not mustard gas!

It pretty much is just as toxic. It can contain all sorts of crap. You do not know what is in that plastic because you do not know what went into it. They release dioxins [you know - actual toxic stuff] and it burning it is banned in many places.

GloriaHotcakes Mon 31-Aug-15 09:06:40

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greenwichjelly Mon 31-Aug-15 09:16:00

Doreen, if you've got weak lungs, why the fuck are you going to BBQs where there's, y'know, a shitload of smoke ?!

DoreenLethal Mon 31-Aug-15 09:18:18

Doreen, if you've got weak lungs, why the fuck are you going to BBQs where there's, y'know, a shitload of smoke ?!

Smoke is absolutely fine. Honest.

It is toxic smoke that causes a problem. You know - from burning plastic!

Hence posting on the burning plastic thread. And not the general fire thread.

Birdsgottafly Mon 31-Aug-15 09:45:29

I agree with never burning plastic.

However, ideally the pregnant women shouldn't be smoking, but if they do, they still have the right to decide not to take further risks by eating known causes of Still Births (via contamination).

Get off your high horse over other people's choices that don't directly affect you (unlike the burning of plastic).

Ziar Mon 31-Aug-15 10:04:20

Idiots burn plastic. I understand why you were peeved. Not sure I'd get hysterical about but I understand your annoyance.

trollkonor Mon 31-Aug-15 10:23:12

It's not because they're men but because they are idiots.

Who would ever think that burning plastic was a reasonable thing to do? For a start it just smells vile, stinking black smoke around when you're eating?

Then again I have never seen people burn the meat packaging at a bbq or start up an incinerator to burn random rubbish.

LIZS Mon 31-Aug-15 10:34:20

I'm kind of with you, op. You'd hate to have our neighbours though, who seem to like nothing better than to have friends round for a bbq followed by bonfire, whatever the weather. He is self employed in property maintenance so last one included an acrylic bath (presumably avoiding paying commercial tip fees). Often it is broken fence panels. I've tried mentioning my asthma but he didn't seem to get the point.hmm

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