TAX ON TALL KIDS

(47 Posts)
Momo123 Thu 20-Aug-15 14:18:30

AIBU- its time for kitting kids out with new clobber for new school year! My DS is 14 years old so he's on permanent growth spurt measuring 5'10" tall of slim build. He has autism & other learning disabilities therefore goes to a special school. I like him to have logoed school uniform as he does does lots of life skilled based learning which means he's out & about a lot with school & heaven forbid If ever he was to become separated from his group in a crowd he he will be easily identified by his school logo! So I just ordered his school uniform from famous school shop w/s - total cost of his uniform came to approx £79 approx but as I've had to order adult sizes & bill went up to£95 with £15 VAT! He's still 14yrs old so still a child and think it's unfair that we have to pay more for uniformsad We can't help his genetic growth! Does anyone else feel the same way?

caroldecker Thu 20-Aug-15 14:32:42

Its the age not the size. There is no VAT on clothes for young children and HMRC has decided young stops at 14.

catsmother Thu 20-Aug-15 14:46:12

Problem is .... there are plenty of kids who are younger than 14 but who need to wear age 14,15, 16 clothes - or even adult sizes. My daughter is one of them - very tall for her age rather than overweight - and no way would she, at 11, fit into a so-called aged 11 garment without looking ridiculous and feeling very uncomfortable.

It really pisses me off - but I don't know what the answer is. I used to fondly imagine a system where, if accompanied by your child, and some sort of proof of age, you'd get the VAT deducted from any clothing you were buying for them. But of course, that system would be open to abuse as the powers-that-be would have no way of ensuring your purchases would actually be worn by the child once you left the shop.

Oh - and same goes for shoes too of course. My daughter is the same size as me, and her feet are still growing. I have no choice but to buy adult shoes which will almost certainly be rendered useless within the year - and no, it's not a case of her passing them on to me, because, despite everything, she is still a child and I therefore try hard to buy clothes and shoes which are age appropriate (even if technically 'adult') and aren't the sort of thing I'd want to wear.

WitchOfAlba Thu 20-Aug-15 14:48:54

It's one of those things. I've paid VAT on 'children's' shoes for a long time because both of mine have large feet - my youngest has another year at primary school and is a size 8 1/2 so I've probably paid VAT for ages on his shoes.

TheHouseOnTheLane Thu 20-Aug-15 14:49:09

Well it galls me when I have to do the same for my DD....it's life. Clothes for older kids or adults need to use more fabric. It's not tax...it's material.

SlightlyJadedJack Thu 20-Aug-15 15:04:14

My 11 year old is in size 7 shoes, once you're over size 5.5 in boys shoes you're a man apparently. I'm dreading his brother though as he is bigger than his brother was at the same age so I expect he'll be in men's shoes by about 9!

SaucyJack Thu 20-Aug-15 15:07:55

I do think there should be a tax-exemption on school uniform. Yes.

ALemonyPea Thu 20-Aug-15 15:11:40

There should be some sort of card you can show when buying stuff for that child to get the VAT exemption.

I have the same problem, I have three very tall DC. DC1 is 12 and has been in adults clothes for over a year now, size 8 feet.

Stompylongnose Thu 20-Aug-15 15:20:26

I guess they won't do this because they'd have to charge adults who can get away with children's sizes the VAT.

Topseyt Thu 20-Aug-15 15:20:34

I have had this with all of my three DDs.

I am a short-arse, but they have a tall Dad. All needed adult sized clothes from around age 11 onwards.

It gets pricey. Would be nice if the VAT could be reclaimed for under 14s.

howtorebuild Thu 20-Aug-15 15:27:36

Shops would end up asking for child benefit letters, as people of reduced stature would be able to buy cheap cloths in child sizes.

DJThreeDog Thu 20-Aug-15 15:36:49

I don't see why there can't be an exemption on school uniform. I mean, I understand why say a 6 ft 14 year old would need to buy adult size clothing, so you still want the tax on that (well actually no, but let's assume we all do!) but an adult isn't going to buy school uniform! Especially the overpriced branded stuff - in what way is that fair?!

SaucyJack Thu 20-Aug-15 15:42:16

As a person of "reduced stature" I can assure you I wouldn't be buying gingham dresses or school blazers to wear myself no matter how cheap they were .........wink

DJThreeDog Thu 20-Aug-15 15:45:21

Oh I don't know Saucy, I'm quite partial to the yellow ones myself wink grin

Lurkedforever1 Thu 20-Aug-15 15:55:11

Yanbu. Really fucking annoys me. Dd is 11 and 5'6. She's always needed a few years older in clothes size for height, since age 8 though when the teen sizes got so wide they were unwearable, I've been increasingly annoyed with extra cost. Now an adult size 4 is the closest fit, age 15 isn't always long enough in the leg but yet is wider than a size 4. And size 5 feet. With id you should get vat off clothes for tall kids if they aren't making children's sizes for tall slim ones.
Although might as well get used to it, height is penalised for clothes shopping right through life.

momb Thu 20-Aug-15 16:01:48

It works the other way too, alas. I have tiny girls and ED was walking early: nursery wouldn't let her go outside with the others in sock feet so we ended up having to have shoes made for her. Those tiny first shoes cost more than her Y7 school uniform, including all shoes and sports kit.

Iamnotloobrushphobic Thu 20-Aug-15 16:04:43

It annoys me too. DS was wearing a size 9 shoe at age 11 and my other DS was wearing men size clothing at age 13 and men sized shoes at age 10.

Pericombobulations Thu 20-Aug-15 16:13:50

My age 11 DS is wearing age 14 clothes and size 7 shoes, and just spent nearly £250 buying new logo'd uniform for him this week! And thats before we get his shoes and trainers etc

Momo123 Thu 20-Aug-15 22:35:44

Thanks for the replies- I was sure I wasn't the only one! I agree with PPs all school uniform should be exempt from VAT; school uniform is not a luxury for growing kids!

Unhappyuser Thu 20-Aug-15 22:39:20

Why do they sell adult size school uniform ?

jeronimoh Thu 20-Aug-15 22:40:06

Logoed school uniform should be exempt - I didn't realise that it wasn't.

My biggest expense for my 14 year old is shoes. School shoes and trainers for P.E.(which he'll lose in a few weeks and I'll have to replace) cost a blinking fortune.

starlight2007 Thu 20-Aug-15 22:40:28

My Ds is only 8 but yes very tall so I expect to be paying vat on his clothes long before his peers..I agree school uniform shoul be exempt

balletgirlmum Thu 20-Aug-15 22:42:26

I've got the opposite problem. I'm having to have a blazer & trousers specially made to measure for ds who starts Year 7 in September but wears age 7-8 clothes.

DustBunnyFarmer Thu 20-Aug-15 22:44:26

My Mum used to grumble about this with my school shoes and my hobbit feet. Seems my sons are similarly inclined. I just forked out nearly £100 on school shoes - in another year or so, it will be that +20% and I reckon they'll both be in specialist shoe sizes around puberty. sad about having to rein in my own shoe budget.

manicinsomniac Fri 21-Aug-15 00:41:28

It's luck of the draw.

My daughters may well never grow out of children's clothes and shoes. I haven't. (not that I buy them all the time obviously, but sometimes I do.)

That's a plus point. But there are plenty of bad things about being tiny too.

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