Parents should pay for exercise books

(113 Posts)
DorothyL Wed 13-May-15 21:26:42

I know in the US and Germany, and probably other countries, parents are handed a stationery list before the beginning of the academic year - nobody has a problem with it. It would make such a difference to school budgets, and when students leave page after page blank etc (which they do!) they would not be wasting school money.

Nothavingfunrightnow Wed 13-May-15 21:29:58

So WTF is your question?

ShouldIworryornothelp Wed 13-May-15 21:33:45

No issue with it. As you say it's expected in other countries. Might make kids value their books a bit more.

Trills Wed 13-May-15 21:36:38

I disagree.

Not every child's parents have money.

Not every child's parents are organised.

Not every child's parents think school is important.

Not every child's parents care if their child is embarrassed by having to admit that ther parent didn't give them the money.

Tax me a little more if necessary, but don't disadvantage or embarrass the chidren whose parents cannot or will not pay for school books.

thecatfromjapan Wed 13-May-15 21:38:12

I don't mind being taxed so that poorer children aren't disadvantaged either.

Sirzy Wed 13-May-15 21:38:15

It's easy enough to check back in a book and fill in any gaps!

It's a pretty sad stare of affairs if we have to charge children for basics of an education

thecatfromjapan Wed 13-May-15 21:40:00

It's a teeny tiny amount if my taxes - and it would make Abigail difference to be THAT child who doesn't have parent-bought exercise books. Why would I begrudge that tiny amount of money?

thecatfromjapan Wed 13-May-15 21:40:59

Bloody autocorrect: a big difference. No idea who Abigail is.

ChunkyPickle Wed 13-May-15 21:41:38

We were made to use up blank pages.

I can't see it's efficient in any way, shape, or form for every parent to muck about buying exercise books in different shapes and sizes rather than have each child given an identical one by the school. I know other countries do it, but I just don't understand why. It would be like arriving at the hospital and having to provide your own dressings.

Trills Wed 13-May-15 21:43:33

I suspect that charging parents for boooks would involve more cost in terms of admin than just giving the books out free.

Patchworkpatty Wed 13-May-15 21:45:30

This makes me fume with anger . angry state school means our taxes pay for schooling . if you choose to opt out and go private then that is a choice you can make. meanwhile a STATE school should be providing Everything it takes to educate its students or it is not fulfilling its duties. End of.

Theknacktoflying Wed 13-May-15 21:48:04

Buy a school pack from the school at the beg of the year of all the kit needed for the year.

Scrap the stupid free school dinners ro infant school children - colossal waste of money

Theknacktoflying Wed 13-May-15 21:49:52

Why should the childless by choice taxpayer have to fork out for school books?

Maycausesideeffects Wed 13-May-15 21:53:56

It is now increasingly common for Sixth Formers to buy own textbooks. School budgets are squeaky tight.

Trills Wed 13-May-15 21:54:40

I did the Live Below The Line challenge this year, and having felt how much that affected my ability to concentrate I now support free school meals for ALL primary school children (not just under KS1).

(I am childless by choce right now, btw)

Volvox Wed 13-May-15 21:55:40

Completely agree and don't mind paying. Presumably it'll be funded for those on low income.
People are more likely to take care of books they have invested in.

HermioneGrangerHair Wed 13-May-15 21:58:01

I'm child free by choice. I'm happy to pay a bit more in taxes so that schools provide children with stationery.

BeaufortBelle Wed 13-May-15 22:01:12

I wouldn't have a problem paying. I think if every child got a "pack" paid for by those who can and provided free for those on FSM it might be quite helpful in demonstrating the cost of education and helping some parents to attach a realistic value to it. Too often in the UK it's either taken for granted or dismissed as something "not for the likes of us" or ridiculed. Getting rid of that culture would help more children than providing free for all books.

Lioncubnotbabycherub Wed 13-May-15 22:02:25

thrknack
Why should these school children pay taxes that pay for your health care when when they are adults?

MrsGentlyBenevolent Wed 13-May-15 22:02:43

Awful idea, as pointed out by others, some families cannot provide these things. Those who are child free are already paying for schools through taxes, you would have them pay more. Kids who live below the poverty line probably have enough to deal with, being on free meals and possibly second hand clothing, I don't think pointing out they can't even afford a book to write in for their education will help a bit.

chickenfuckingpox Wed 13-May-15 22:03:40

children on free school meals net the school a pupil premium extra finance for having a poor child in there school this money (in my experience) does not often go towards helping the child

if i have to pay for stationary and school books i might as well bloody home school her and work for avon

steppemum Wed 13-May-15 22:04:26

In many countries there are large numbers of children who don't go to school because they don't have the money to pay for books and uniform.

We have charities who raise money to fund them, a few pennies a day to allow a child to access education.

I hope that we are a county where not one child would ever not be able to go to school because they can't afford the books.

thecatfromjapan Wed 13-May-15 22:05:07

Why would anyone think it would only be people with children who can experience empathy towards disadvantaged children?shock
The not begrudging a tiny fraction of taxes helping to ameliorate a child's disadvantage has flap all to do with whether you have children or not.
I would also be happy to pay more tax to ease the lives of disabled people - even though I haven't experienced disability and not have my immediate family.
Sometimes people act and think beyond a narrow self-interest.
I , personally, think that it is this ability that has driven the human facility with language, culture and technology. We dismiss it, and valorise immediate self- interest, to the detriment of our humanity and our human-ness.
Just IMO.

sanfairyanne Wed 13-May-15 22:05:34

offs is this what we have to look forward to now? endless 'how to save 5p and make life just a bit more shit for parents' threads? yes op yabu

Maryz Wed 13-May-15 22:05:44

I've seen first hand (Ireland) how in a primary school some children can be very marginalised by not having books/copies/stationery/pens etc.

Not always the "poor" children either; often children where the parents just seem unable to keep up with the constant demands and the notes home.

My son had one friend who was constantly in trouble - he had two hard-working time-poor parents, who just never seemed to remember to stock up on sharpened pencils and replace used cartridges.

Here we pay around 50 euro plus per year per child to the class teacher to cover art supplies and photocopying; on top of that we buy all copies, all graph paper, pens, colouring pencils, rubbers, calculators, etc etc.

Of course we also pay a fortune for schoolbooks but that is another story.

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