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AIBU?

To think it could still be broken?

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MrsSocks · 26/02/2015 20:55

DS (almost 4) has complained about a sore arm for the past week. He is holding it in a sling type position, bent at the elbow and close to his chest, and is very reluctant to move it. He can move it however, and seems to have full range of movement, albeit painful movement at times. He is playing as normal otherwise and even had a morning at a soft play where he happily threw himself round the equipment (with arm firmly fixed in his favoured sling pose). He is a tough lad who throws himself about in a typical brutish manner and very rarely complains of being hurt. He usually brushes himself down and carries on. Even this week when I can tell he's in pain he tells me "it's fine!"
He had a 'pulled elbow' on the same arm about a year ago but was in incredible pain until it popped back in after which you wouldn't even know it had happened and he carried on as normal.
So to summerise, he's not in constant pain, there's no swelling, no visible bruising as such (bit red/mottled around elbow) and he does have full range of movement when pushed to it......aibu to think it could still be fractured? Has anyone had experience of a child breaking a bone without any obvious signs (swelling/pain/etc)?? I'm sure I'm worrying over nothing but I just expected it to be improving after a week

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Purplepoodle · 26/02/2015 20:58

If your worried take him to a&e tomorrow and get an xray

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MrsSocks · 26/02/2015 20:59

I should also mention that he won't let me touch the arm at all

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carabos · 26/02/2015 21:03

DS1 broke his arm aged 4. He behaved exactly as your DS re holding the arm in the sling position, now and then coming for a cuddle but not complaining of pain. After a couple of hours we took him to A&E. He was in a cast for three or four weeks, no real harm done.

Top tip - if he does end up in plaster, keep the cast when they take it off - he will be amazed how small it is when you show it to him years later when he's a strapping 6 footer. Smile

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MrsSocks · 26/02/2015 21:05

Thanks purple

I don't want to take him unless it's possible it's broken as I wouldn't want to waste their time or put DC (2 and 3yrs) through the hours waiting in a n e for them to say it's a sprain and will sort itself. I guess without an X-ray it's hard to say either way. I certainly don't want to put DS at risk of more damage by leaving it if it was broken though!

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Patatas · 26/02/2015 21:10

I would take him, there is clearly something not quite right with it, especially as its been going on a week now. Better to be safe than sorry.

Go first thing tomorrow and hopefully you won't be waiting too long.

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kitchentableagain · 26/02/2015 21:10

YES it sounds like it could definitely be broken.

A&E. They do glittery casts if he is into that (i know it sounds girly but I saw a green and Brown with gold glitter the other week. Was like magic camouflage).

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MrsSocks · 26/02/2015 21:12

Thanks carabos good idea about the cast. I remember a friend getting stuck in her childhood cast after boasting she could still get it on Grin

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PiperIsTerrysChoclateOrange · 26/02/2015 21:13

I would take him to a&he, if you go to your gp then you will only be sent to the hospital for an X-ray.

Tonight pack a bag for all dc and go first thing in the morning, don't give your son anything to eat before hand just in case he needs to be nil by mouth.

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PiperIsTerrysChoclateOrange · 26/02/2015 21:13

I would take him to a&he, if you go to your gp then you will only be sent to the hospital for an X-ray.

Tonight pack a bag for all dc and go first thing in the morning, don't give your son anything to eat before hand just in case he needs to be nil by mouth.

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mrbob · 26/02/2015 21:17

I would say from your description that I would be VERY surprised if it wasn't broken! You are not wasting their time! Kids are great in that they don't tend to complain about it for more than a few minutes if things are not too bad because they get distracted by fun stuff. I would guess he has a buckle fracture but would get down there and get it x-rayed

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DrMeep · 26/02/2015 21:50

Making a child wait a week with an injured (possibly broken) arm so as not to waste the hospital's time doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

My brother had a broken arm at a young age, and there was worry that since the break was in the growth plate he could have ended up with a wrong-sized arm. Luckily he got it seen to and stabilised and he ended up ok.

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Karma1981 · 26/02/2015 22:10

When my dd was 3 she was pushed of a trampoline by her lovely sister.
She came in the house screaming, but I checked her arm and she could move it and nothing was swollen.
Dd then fell asleep at 2 in the afternoon, never does she do that!
I knew then that there was something up so took her to hospital.
She indeed had broken her elbow, from having outstretched hands trying to break her fall from the trampoline poor thing.
Please get your child looked at.

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dogscatsandbabies · 26/02/2015 22:11

Yes, take him. The presentation you describe could definitely be a greenstick or buckle fracture (essentially the bone bends rather than fully breaking due to remaining soft while it grows). Full movement is not unusual.

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AlmaMartyr · 26/02/2015 22:13

I had a fractured arm as a 3yo and Mum finally took me to the doctor after 2 and a half weeks because I kept crying when she was putting my coat on etc. So could be a fracture :)

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AlmaMartyr · 26/02/2015 22:15

Meant to say, hope he's OK MrsSocks, you won't be wasting time getting him checked out.

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MrsSocks · 26/02/2015 22:18

Thanks everyone. I will take him tomorrow and get it x-rayed.

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BlackeyedSusan · 26/02/2015 22:20

ermm, Blush I once made a child do PE with a broken arm. to be fair his parent thought it would be Ok. We were both mortified when we found out that a few days after he fell at home that he had a greenstick fracture and we had let him do PE. I suppose running around games in Pe are not much different to running around the playground. He was not holding it as much as your child is either. They did not complain much and the parent only took the child when he had mentioned it again a few days afterwards

so yes, get it looked at. Greenstick fractures can hide.

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Fluffyears · 26/02/2015 22:22

I fractured my elbow and could still move it hence moody triage nurse saying 'humph well I doubt it's broken!' Wanted to whack her with my x-Ray showing two hairline fractures. Didn't get a cast though it was put in a sling instead.

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Patatas · 27/02/2015 23:12

How did your ds get on mrssocks?

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MrsSocks · 01/03/2015 22:36

Had an x ray done of his elbow, all fine. Since then there's been little change other than the pain seems to be getting worse! I'm having to manage it with calpol and nurofen now, he's actually complaining and crying in pain. Hospital said little other than that it wasn't broken and that he was probably still holding it as he was worried it would hurt if moved. I can definetly see bruising and swelling round it now and he still won't let me touch it. Looks like we are just going to have to ride this out! It's breaking my heart seeing this tough little lad in pain though. He's not a soft touch so he must have really hurt it to be suffering still Sad

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Patatas · 02/03/2015 09:55

Glad its not broken, but sounds very painful, poor thing. I hope it starts to improve soon.

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Hoppinggreen · 02/03/2015 10:12

Could he be slightly hypermobile?
We have had this with DD when she was younger, if she hurt herself she would just " protect" the arm or leg for a few days and then be back to normal? We took her to hospital a few times when she hurt her wrist and just wouldn't use it at all but there was no break and after a day or 2 she would be fine.
Hope he is ok

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