WIBU if i stooped to this level?

[jellybelly701]

I can't go into great detail as it may well come back to bite me in the ass. But a long story cut short;

DP was working for a very large company as part of a training programme through university. The idea of this is so he could do all the necessary training in order to pass his course. At the end of he two years the manager was to decide whether to keep him on s a full time employee.

Now in this two years DP received none of the training he should have. Instead he was used as cheap labour (he was on half the salary due to it being a an apprenticeship type thing) and was made to do all the things his manager didn't want to do. For example he was doing risk assessment for numerous branches of the company, he is not trained to perform risk assessments. He also did all the IMS audits and updated all health and safety policies again he is not trained to do any of this. He was doing all the managers paperwork amongst other things he wasn't contracted to do.

His manger was a complete Dick, wanting to discipline him constantly. He was disciplined for being being late as he came in at 7:03 it states clearly in his contract that he starts at 8 not 7. He was also disciplined for not wearing the correct PPE (gloves) even though he was just walking to his car and no sign anywhere mention gloves, only boots and high vis.

The reason the disciplinary actually went through was because his manger is having sex with the HR rep. This isn't hear say, they have been caught by many employees and she is often spotted leaving his office looking extremely dishevelled. Considering she is supposed to be unbiased it all seems very biased to me.

Because of these disciplinary he had been Informed he wont get the job. Which means come next month DP, 10MO DS and I will be homeless as we cannot afford rent. His manager was nothing but a bully and went out of his way to ensure this would be the outcome.

DP is calling foul play and will be taking this higher.

Now, the bitch in me wants to fuck him over just as much as he has us. I am so very very tempted to email his wife and inform her about his OW. I probably wont as it will go in managers favour once it has been taken higher but I really want to.

[Spindarella]

Don't do it. Tempting though it is, you're making the right call. Telling her won't improve your situation and I think it's very important to be able to live with the actions you've taken.

Hope things work out for you though.

[LadyLuck10]

I wouldn't because it all comes across as sour grapes. He had two years to bring all these issues up, he knew he wasn't trained to complete any tasks so he should have queried this at the time. He's really not been given the job over an affair?

[jellybelly701]

ladyluck

No, that's not why he hasn't been given the job. But it is why the disciplinary was given which in turn leads to him not being given a job.

She was supposed to be unbiased but instead believed everything the manager had told her without even looking at DPs contract. If she did she would know that he wasn't late he was an hour early!

He has brought these issues up, numerous times. Each time he did he got 10x more shit from his boss so gave up.

[jellybelly701]

His mangers exact words regarding the lack of training for the tasks were ' well if you don't do it you wont get the job at the end of your course' he said that about many other things DP queried too. He had him completely backed into a corner.

[Bulbasaur]

Don't bother with the other woman, but you might have some legal standing for wrongful termination, and the other woman will come up in court. :)

[Bulbasaur]

Also, just to ask, in 2 years, he didn't see that he wasn't getting anywhere with his boss? I would have been job searching long before this bomb was dropped on me.

If what you say is true, he likely has a solid base to stand on for escalating this higher based on the contract.

However, they are going to ask why he didn't complain about conflicting interests with HR long before this...

[LeftRightCentre]

After it's all resolved, then I'd tell her, and yes, I really would.

[jellybelly701]

bulb he thought that they wouldn't actually be able to terminate his employment based on that so didn't bother job hunting until a month ago. He was actually offered a job within the same Company but at a different branch as they was really impressed with his work. However just after his interview last week he was informed that his old manager and a few people above him were putting the pressure on him to not employ him. Then today we was informed that he has been told he 'isn't allowed' to employ him. He has said though that he will back DP up when he ( don't know the word) takes it higher. As even he said this is discrimination and it just isn't fair. He wants to employ him and DP wants to be employed by him.

His old manager has worked there for 40+ years and has a hell of a lot of pull with the people higher than him.

[jellybelly701]

All other employees have commented (off the record) that he is a bully and has been treating DP unfairly. But bar the guy who wanted to employ him, nobody is willing to stand up and say this on record because then they would be in the firing line.

[Spindarella]

Is Flowery about?

I'm not sure it is "discrimination" as defined by the law (google protected characteristics). Also if he hasn't been employed two years or it's a case of him not being kept on after a two year arrangement, I'm not sure he can actually bring a claim for wrongful/constructive dismissal. I think he could (and should) have appealed the disciplinary procedures at that time - I don't know if you can question them retrospectively?

[jellybelly701]

spinderella that's what I feared.

I told him from the get go that he needed to document everything and appeal his disciplinary. He didn't want to do this though because if he did it would give his manager another reason to dislike him. I told him to go above his head an let the top dogs know what's going on but he didn't want to be shit on from an even greater height.

I don't think he can appeal now, the moment has gone. He will just sound sour. I'm quite disappointed he didn't listen to me.

[deakymom]

tempting on the whole i think no although i did report my dp former employers to the inland revenue for tax evasion when they refused to pay him and were dicks they had to close that company down and open a new one a few months later realistically they should not have been paying cash in hand should they! i was bloody cold and used the last of my internet on that revenge but it didnt warm my house up so just job search your ass off