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AIBU?

to think that this is an awful situation [sad] [shock]

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Weirdbeard · 17/09/2014 19:29

I’m sorry about the length of this.

I’ve been going out with my girlfriend for just over 4 months – she’s 41, I’m 44. Both of us have had abusive former relationships, and we’ve had other relationships since that didn’t work out, because we’d learned to not hang about when things are clearly going wrong. Abusive relationships teach you that you can’t fix people.

I fell properly, head-over-heels, utterly in love. That sort of thing you see in the movies, where you can't keep away from one another. Everything was great – she’s clever, pretty, amazing in bed, funny, exciting and sensitive. She said she felt the same way, that this was so different and she didn’t know she could feel like this. When we first met, she said she didn’t get jealous, then admitted she felt jealousy with me, and said she “didn’t like feelings”.

We’ve spent loads of time together. She has a pretty high-powered job and a daughter who’s nearly 16, so practicalities meant I spent more time at her house than she has at mine. We worked out a routine of taking turns buying the shopping, and I did all the cooking (because she doesn’t like doing it, and is often working in the evening, and I enjoy cooking). I get on well with her daughter and she’s introduced me to the rest of her family too. She doesn’t get on with most of her family, who are quite cold and distant.

About a month ago, while I was away, we had a sequence of misunderstandings that led to me thinking I was being dumped and while it was pretty serious, we both came back together and agreed some bad things had been said and how much we loved each other. And we were close again.

For the last couple of weeks, she’s been really over-worked and very unwell. She will never go easy on herself. I’ve been worried, as you would when you love someone. She’s had health scares before, and she also gets chest pains when she smokes an occasional cigarette. She'd also got light-headed recently and fallen over, so I was worried.

I made sure she was comfortable all weekend. I cooked food, did washing up, helped her with some work and gave her a lift to the health centre. I was feeling a little down, but was careful not to show it as she was clearly much worse. At one point I saw her crying in the sitting room. I came in and gave her a cuddle and asked what was wrong. She said “I don’t want to talk about it”. She had a bath on the Sunday evening, then we went to bed. During the day she seemed a little distant with me, but I put it down to her being ill – as she puts it, she gets a bit “pissy” when she’s unwell and wants to be alone. She apologised for it on the Saturday night, unnecessarily.

I woke up at about 3am on Monday morning because she was coughing hard. I asked her if she was OK and she clearly wasn’t, but she had a drink and settled down (I thought). I then woke about 15 minutes later as she got out of bed. She didn’t come back for about 10 minutes so I was concerned.

I went out into the living room and it was all dark. I hesitated, wondering if she had fallen or was asleep in there for some reason, then she shouted, “FOR GOD’S SAKE, I MIGHT AS WELL COME BACK TO BED. I WAS TRYING NOT TO WAKE YOU UP”. She’d been masturbating(!) on the couch. She came back to bed and continued. I asked if I could touch her (I was feeling pretty horny too) and she said yes. She came quickly then rolled over. Given that I was still, you know, getting on with it, I said jokingly, “Have you gone off me a bit”. To which she replied, “Yes, you’ve just smothered me this weekend. If you leave me alone I MIGHT like you again”.

I lay for a few minutes, shocked and upset, then got up and packed my things and sat for a second in the sitting room, trying to pull myself together. She came in and said, “Go if you’re going. Don’t just sit there”. So I left, as she’d asked. If she’d asked me for space before, I would have given it to her. I’m aware this can make me sound like some sort of awful stalker, but it really wasn’t like that. It was a normal situation, with one person who’s ill and the partner trying to make them comfy.

Since then – nothing. I’ve sent a few messages, letting her know how shocked I was and how I’m insecure – asking her to explain, saying I’ll give her space if that’s what she needs – but all I’ve had is a message yesterday saying I was hassling her and she’d speak to me properly soon, then one today saying “Leave me alone. Now you are harassing me”.

I’m broken-hearted. All sorts of things are going through my head – has she been diagnosed with cancer (she had a scare before)? Is she having an affair? Does she think I am? I understand people don’t want to talk, but to leave it like this doesn’t seem right to me. The least she could do is say “I need some space right now” or “I still love you but I need time” or even “I’m sorry, but it’s over”. But nothing. AIBU to say that I should at least get something, and that the silent treatment is horrible. I have honestly never felt worse. I can’t eat or sleep. Why would she suddenly change like that?

Please help. I adore her but I can’t for the life of me think of a reason to do the silent treatment. I thought she cared for me. I've not been able to eat or sleep properly since Sunday night and I'm going into a whirlpool of misery.

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Weirdbeard · 17/09/2014 19:32

Sorry about the Sad Shock stuff. I didn't know you couldn't use smileys in the title.

I also wanted to add a) that I wouldn't normally post on here but I have nobody to talk to about this, and b) I'm quite prepared to accept I've fucked up but I need to at least be told that's the case.

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HeySoulSister · 17/09/2014 19:34

I'm thinking affair. Sorry

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macdoodle · 17/09/2014 19:34

I'm sorry but YABU, you are smothering her, and she's gone off you, she's trying to let you down easy. What you describe would be too much for me to. Needy is very unattractive.

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Username12345 · 17/09/2014 19:34

Might have been better to put this in relationships.

Sounds like you both have issues.

Abusive relationships teach you that you can’t fix people.

You can't fix her. You can't make her talk. You need to figure out what you want, talk to her. You should prepare yourself that it isn't going to work no matter how much you love her.

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LadyLuck10 · 17/09/2014 19:36

She sounds very abusive. I think you would be better of without her. She has mistaken your caring about her for smothering her. Leave her be and she'll find out soon what an awful person she is.

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Weirdbeard · 17/09/2014 19:37

Macdoodle: I think you are misunderstanding this, she has been the one to make all the suggestions about me staying there, doing the cooking etc. Not me. We've had what seemed like a normal - good - relationship. I spend every other weekend away because I have a little boy who lives with his mum. We have long work days. Hardly smothering.

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justmuddlingalong · 17/09/2014 19:37

You say you have both been able to walk away from relationships that are clearly not working. It sounds like this is what she is doing now, Sorry.

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Weirdbeard · 17/09/2014 19:37

Ladyluck10: I really want to talk to her. I'm convinced there's more to this - there was no hint of his in her before. But she won't talk at all.

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ashtrayheart · 17/09/2014 19:40

You need to back off. She's changed her mind by the sounds of it I'm afraid.

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IrenetheQuaint · 17/09/2014 19:42

Impossible to tell from this if you've been smothering her or not... but you've only been together four months! You barely know each other. I think all this passion and drama has made you think the relationship is much more serious than it actually is.

Step right back and don't contact here again unless she contacts you first.

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UsuallyHateNameChangers · 17/09/2014 19:43

Honestly, who knows what is going on in her head but you said in your post you've both learned not to hang around if things aren't right in a relationship and it sounds like she's thinking something's not right in this one.

At a push i would say she is finding you too needy? It can be massively off putting.

Lastly, I don't want to undermine what you have but 4 months is no time at all and if you've already had one episode of almost breaking up and now this, it's not exactly boding well i don't think.

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AlpacaMyBags · 17/09/2014 19:43

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SaucyJack · 17/09/2014 19:44

I don't think she's trying to let you down easy at all. But she's made it quite clear she wants rid of you.

Delete her number and move on with your life. Sorry dude.

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Viviennemary · 17/09/2014 19:48

I think you are entitled to a proper explanation if she has decided to end the relationship. It doesn't seem to me you have done anything wrong. Maybe she has had bad news re her health but it's difficult to speculate. Hope you get some answers soon.

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YellowTulips · 17/09/2014 19:55

There is nothing to be gained by doing anything other than backing off.

Maybe send a short email saying you understand she wants space and after this mail you won't be initiating any further contact, then simply give it a week and if you hear nothing accept its time to move on.

The change in her behaviour makes me think there's some sort of catalyst here and she is pulling away.

I can't say for sure if that's your "smothering" or "caring" behaviour - depending on her version of the weekend or yours, but something sounds off.

If could be a health issue, another man or a realisation that the honeymoon period is over and she just isn't that committed to you.

Either way if she won't communicate you have to accept this relationship fundamentally isn't what you thought it was.

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MrsCumbersnatch · 17/09/2014 20:27

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picnicbasketcase · 17/09/2014 20:30

It does sound awful but it soundalike it would be best to just walk away. I don't think she's very good at finding a way to end it and is being horrible to make you leave so she doesn't have to.

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Alisvolatpropiis · 17/09/2014 20:34

I'd cut my losses if I were you, in all honesty.

I know it seems awful because you had hopes for the relationship but this is just heading for more misery.

It's the casual sexual humiliation which seems most unpleasant, to me personally.

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Weirdbeard · 17/09/2014 20:34

Thanks for all your replies. I don't think I was smothering her, but maybe I was. Thing is, she never said before. She invited me there. We've genuinely been an equal partnership - it's difficult for me because this is behaviour that never showed itself before. And I think it's immature and childish to do the silent treatment. I don't think she's had a problem ending relationships before, so I don't know why she would be trying to do it this way now.

I'm not going to message her any more, because you're right, it won't help and maybe makes things worse. I just think it's the decent thing to actually tell someone something, rather than make them stew. Especially in such a (previously) intimate relationship. I'd never truly been in love before this. Devastated doesn't cover it.

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YakInAMac · 17/09/2014 20:52

Oh, poor you. It does sound very painful, and I'm sorry she treated you like that.

It's hard to say what's going on. I have a fairly high octane job, long hours, a child, and I have to say I have a very ambivalent attitude to being cared for. I can't bear being fussed over, maybe I have a hard time accepting sympathy. I like people fighting my battles alongside me, if you see what I mean but I don't like being treated with pity, or sympathy that has a hint of pity.

I wonder if she is like this?

Read these phrases from your post:

me thinking I was being dumped
I made sure she was comfortable all weekend
I was feeling a little down, but was careful not to show
I’ve sent a few messages, letting her know how shocked I was and how I’m insecure

Your insecurity does tend to make you sound as if you might be a bit needy. You can't send someone several messages telling them you will give them space!

Anyway, she is still behaving badly, hurtfully and unreasonably. If she contacts you and apologises - IF - I would advise you to put up some boundaries of your own. If I was horrible to someone who was being a bit clingy / cary (caring and being clingy often look like the same thing) I would respond best to if they came back at me in a clear assertive way and said "OK, I will try harder to respect your space, I understand now. However, if you are upset, I am not prepared to be snapped at or treated with that level of contempt, you need to treat me with more respect". And I would!

I don't know what will happen next, Weird. But my strong advice is to wait and NOT contact her. If she makes contact, look after YOURSELF - and may suggest couples counselling to see how you can both escape the patterns you seem to be in?

The masturbating: has she done that before? Gone into the other room to masturbate while you are there? You seem quite blasé about that aspect?

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Littleturkish · 17/09/2014 20:56

Four months is not love. You do not know her. You love the idea of her you have in your head. If gender roles were reversed, this would sound dreadful. I think it is dreadful, anyway.

Leave it, she clearly isn't that into you.

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YakInAMac · 17/09/2014 21:15

I didn't register it was 4 months.

I think she might be signalling that after the first heady 4 months she might not be ready to settle down with you.

Sorry.

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grocklebox · 17/09/2014 21:18

I don't think she sounds abusive at all, I do think you sound rather needy and much too full on, tbh. 4 months is nothing at all.

And I'm not understanding why people are commenting on her having a wank? Is that not allowed? Confused

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bobbyjo · 17/09/2014 21:29

I think you both went full on quite quickly. I think she might have convinced herself it was more than it was, as you were probably closer to being right for her than others before you. But I think she felt smothered. She might be used to being on her own, but thought she wanted a relationship but the reality of having someone there 24/7 when she wasn't feeling well anyway contributed to her feeling smothered.

The best thing you can do is not contact her again, at all. If she doesn't have the decency to contact you to talk properly, even to finish things with you, then she's was not right and you had a lucky escape, no matter how hard that might be to understand now.

It flared up strongly and burned itself out strongly. Just one of those things. I've been there myself. The idea was right. On paper it was right. It felt right until quite suddenly it didn't and I wanted to run a mile.

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EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 17/09/2014 21:32

I think she's gone off you. Sorry. 4 months is around the time that the initial shine can wear off and I think she's just found you a bit too clingy and smothering. Your behaviour has been both - the texts you sent asking her to respond and telling her you are insecure would have done my nut and you clearly didn't respect the fact that she wanted space, to the point where she accused you of harassing her.
Lessons to be learnt here I think. I'm sorry you're disappointed, it's rubbish when you had high hopes of a relationship and it fails to deliver.

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