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To be shocked that charges have been dropped and Cameron is tweeting happiness about Ayasha case

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Albertatata Tue 02-Sep-14 19:46:04

Shocked generally at the way this has been reported. So distrustful of both the medics and police when at the end of the day the parents removed their ill child, took them to a different country without any medical handover, starting an international search and now David Cameron is tweeting that he is relieved charges aren't being brought!

It is undoubtfully a terrible terrible situation but there is a way to behave and this isn't it. Fine if you want to sell your house and access medical care in another country do it, but do it with the guidance and cooperation of the medical team looking after him. Don't bloody run off with him to another country & not tell anyone.

Prepared to be flamed but the fact of the matter is that we have only heard the families side of things and medical team are limited by confidentially.

ICanSeeTheSun Tue 02-Sep-14 19:47:34

www.itv.com/news/story/2014-09-02/lawyer-ashya-kings-parents-to-be-released-tonight/

At least the parent will now be realised

ICanSeeTheSun Tue 02-Sep-14 19:48:25

The Crown Prosecution Service says it has stopped proceedings against Ashya King's parents after evidence received today indicated they were not guilty of "wilful neglect" of their child by taking him from hospital care.

All charges dropped by the cps

grocklebox Tue 02-Sep-14 19:50:11

How about you get to decide what way to behave when its your child that is dying in front of you?

YABU, as well as terribly fucking arrogant to think you know the first thing about the situation because you've read a paper and are on twitter. FFS. hmm

CateBlanket Tue 02-Sep-14 19:50:29

Oh give over! They didn't bugger off to Magaluf and leave their child alone in a flat with only rat droppings for food.

I hope they sue the police, the NHS and Crown Prosecution Service.

And the Spanish authorities behaved terribly too.

ICanSeeTheSun Tue 02-Sep-14 19:53:30

David Cameron I feel is speaking as a parent who will know their plight.

The reason I say this is because he himself has lost his son Ivan.

Albertatata Tue 02-Sep-14 19:54:13

Nobody knows bugger all about this situation over than the parents ran off, without organising any medical handover or future medical care for their sick child and started an international search.

I'm glad they are back with their child but I disagree with the sentiment that they acted I. The child's best interest.

littlejohnnydory Tue 02-Sep-14 19:54:29

YABU. What were they supposed to do if it couldn't be done with the guidance and cooperation of the medical team? What were they supposed to do? Watch him undergo traumatic treatment they were unhappy with?

As far as I can see, this family were backed into a corner by the medical team and the police / press given misleading information that sparked the search. The family can take their child wherever they like.

Albertatata Tue 02-Sep-14 19:54:59

Shelters in bunker

Bulbasaur Tue 02-Sep-14 19:55:40

I agree with you.

You don't run off with a child, putting them at potential risk with a plan made on impulse. The parents aren't doctors, they don't know what's medically best for him. Sorry, they don't. Until you show me those parent's doctorates, they took a great risk smuggling him out of the country without a medical team to assist them like that. They got lucky, end of.

But, now that it's done, let's help the family and see if their intended plan of medical treatment will work. If it doesn't, at least they know they did their best.

Albertatata Tue 02-Sep-14 19:56:17

They planned to sell their house to pay for treatment? So they could do that, he could remain on NHS ward until that time & then transferred with proper medical handover - that is what they could have fone

Albertatata Tue 02-Sep-14 19:56:32

Fone - done

ICanSeeTheSun Tue 02-Sep-14 19:57:26

Albert they went to get treatment that very few could have on the Nhs, only 20 in 400 gets the treatment.

It's not like they took him abroad for an end of life treatment, they are trying to save their sons life.

ICanSeeTheSun Tue 02-Sep-14 19:59:37

Bulbasaur, that is not true at all.
Many times I have heard that parent having explain what their child's disability is.

Bogeyface Tue 02-Sep-14 20:00:21

ALberta they couldnt get a proper medical handover because their sons doctor refused to cooperate and refer him to the centre that they wanted to take him to.

I fail to see how that is the parents fault.

whatiswrongwithyou Tue 02-Sep-14 20:01:01

They are Ashya's parents, not the Medics or authorities and as intelligent, caring and responsible parents, they should get to make the decision what is best for their child.

EstellaSpitsEmOut Tue 02-Sep-14 20:01:08

YABU and it was disgusting that this poor, sick boy was kept away from his family for so long. My heart goes out to him.

MisForMumNotMaid Tue 02-Sep-14 20:01:44

I understand what you're saying but from what I've read the medics had threatened them if they went down their preffered treatment route that the child would be made a ward of court and they'd be excluded from seeing him. Which seamed possibly over zealous and if an empty threat was misconduct, if they had real reason to make the threat then security was inadequate if they felt the situation was sufficiently extreme to be thinking court order. Isn't that why they took this drastic action?

Bulbasaur Tue 02-Sep-14 20:02:59

Many times I have heard that parent having explain what their child's disability is.

Disability =/= terminal illness.

Disabilities are different in that they are life long, typically not medically dependent, and affect different people differently.

Yes, a parent with an ASD child probably knows how their child's ASD is affecting them that day. But they cannot know how cancer is spreading without medical equipment to monitor him.

Anotherchapter Tue 02-Sep-14 20:03:22

Well arnt you fab for starting a thread up trying to condemn the parents of a seriously ill little boy, who's parents were at their wits end because they did t take the advice of the doctors that there was nothing left to do.

I may possibly have done the same. You can rest assure not that the world knows about him, he will receive the best available care.

I really really hope that you yourself are never never in this situation.

DeputyPecksBentBeak Tue 02-Sep-14 20:04:24

If I thought there was a better treatment for my very ill child out there I know right now there is nothing that would stop me taking it.

Do I think they went about it in the best way? I'm not sure. I really don't know enough about the ins and outs (and neither does anyone but those involved).

FreeWee Tue 02-Sep-14 20:07:24

I've been surprised at the unconditional out pouring of support for the family without knowing all the facts. I'm firmly on the fence on this one till I know more. I agree with the OP that logically selling your house before taking your child out of hospital & out of the country would be my thoughts but I'm not faced with a dying child and a strong belief that there's better treatment out there he isn't being 'allowed' to access. I think him being reunited with his parents is excellent news and I hope whatever treatment medics advise is paid for by the 130k people who signed the petition. I will admit the fact the parents are reported to be Jehovah's Witnesses leaves me feeling uneasy, knowing past cases that have ended up in court as a result of their religious beliefs. However as that 'fact' hadn't been confirmed it may just be conjecture. I think a big issue is everyone is Dr Google these days and thinks they know more than medical experts. There's plenty of examples where people research their own case because they have the vested interest and help diagnose themselves; equally there's plenty of examples of people diagnosing themselves with something major and it turns out to be nothing. I'll wait to see what future news reports reveal...

zeezeek Tue 02-Sep-14 20:08:03

YANBU, OP. I know how the medical world acts and what we've heard reported is not how doctors operate, especially in relation to terminally ill children. I am also disturbed by the family's determination to utilise social media in their defence. It seems all rather contrived, whilst the doctors and nurses on that ward are not able to defend their actions.

Think of this scenario: parents took the child out of hospital, the staff did nothing and that child died. The posts would then be very different.

AuntieStella Tue 02-Sep-14 20:08:52

The more this story goes on, the less comprehensible it becomes.

Even though DC can understand at a gut level what it is like to have such a sick child in the family, it seems rather early for him to be making public comment about it.

CallMeExhausted Tue 02-Sep-14 20:12:54

I was going to shut up, but I can't

I am the parent to 3 children with a terminal illness. One has succumbed to it, the other two will. I cannot tell you how many doctors I have had to educate on their specific condition, it's intricacies, and their needs.

Not every disability is stable, well known or developmental.

Spend less time judging others upon your narrow understanding.

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