I am not sure older women can do 'artfully dishevelled'

[PittTheYounger]

without just looking knackered.

[StackladysMorphicResonator]

Correct.

[StackladysMorphicResonator]

However, you can do crisp white shirt and jeans in a 'I just threw this on' kind of way. That works.

[GilbertBlytheWouldGetIt]

I don't think it's an age thing necessarily. I've always looked like a bag of crap.

[MaryWestmacott]

Yanbu, there's a tipping point in your early -mid 30s when you stop looking a bit boho and artistic, and start looking like you live alone with several cats.

The older I get, the more groomed I need to look.

[BarbaraPalmer]

yy
I used to be great at both scruffy-chic, and granny-chic.

Am now 37 and the "chic" part no longer applies, and I have to do actual high-maintenance grooming for work .

[PittTheYounger]

Me too. I think you can suit a look

for eg in ruffles and gypsy skirts ( remember them) I looked like I was in dressing up clothes. I suit plain lines. I cannot do wide legged trousers or wide skirts.

I look like a NOB in boyfriend jeans and converse. Or a female builder of some type.

[PittTheYounger]

Cant do tea dresses -ditto dressing up.

[PittTheYounger]

WHEN i grow up I am going to be Rene Russo in thomas crown affair

[PittTheYounger]

OR thingy off the Game of Cards

I would love to be thingy off honourable woman but those wide leg blue trews blew it for her

[PittTheYounger]

HOUSE of cards

gah

[honeybeeridiculous]

I looked 'artfully dishevelled' this morning when the damn delivery man bought a parcel at the crack of dawn 7 o'clock
It took no effort atall, smoky eyes smudged mascara
Hair ruffled, grubby dressing gown chucked on, it's easy

[Picklepest]

Zandra Rhodes? Vivienne Westwood? Goldie hawn? What do you mean by older anyway? Kate moss usually looks like dragged through a hedge but people love the way she looks. And she's 40? Either the look suits you or it doesn't IMO.

[PittTheYounger]

You know those Home county women - all blonde highlights and fading tan?
my mum calls them 'affluently elegant'

I likey

[BarbaraPalmer]

Gillian Anderson in The Fall is what I aim for only fatter. I like a blouse nowadays.

[PittTheYounger]

goldie hawn SHE IS AN EXAMPLE of how it doesnt translate past kinda... lets say... your early thirties throws bomb in

[PittTheYounger]

pickle I am sure there are celebs it works for
can winkleman get away with her look in ten years or will she looks like she needs a room in a hostel for the night?

[StillStayingClassySanDiego]

Pitt whoarr there!

I'm 46 and look good in loose jeans and converse, as I do in skinnies and a floaty top.

It takes a bit more fake tan and there's a stodgier middle [fucking menopause] and the make up takes longer to look natural.

Takes a good hour at least.

[Purpleflamingos]

Agree the older you get the more high maintenance you need to look.
Used to be a brilliant grunge, then boho chic. I'm 37 now and the only 'just pulled this on' look I can pull off is my leather jacket with skinny jeans.

[Purpleflamingos]

I can pull off tea dresses though. I love them. The thirties and forties style suit my figure much better.

[SaucyJack]

When I'm 48, I'll be ecstatic if I fail at being artfully dishevelled as badly as Helena B-C.

[MaryWestmacott]

Picklepest- those three woman always look a bit shit. Kate moss in her own day time clothes looks rubbish but with a beautiful face.

[Milmingebag]

You don't need to overprimp and stress over this crap.

[StillStayingClassySanDiego]

Yy to high maintenance, I'm considering a super short blonde crop for ease but that means a lot of visits to the salon.

Bugger, it's expensive getting older

[ephemeralfairy]

I can't stand that wispy boho look. It never ever suited me, even when I was 21. I'm early 30s now with strong features horsey. I need clean lines and strong coulours!

[fluffyraggies]

Yeah, the 'pale and interesting' look suddenly turns into 'wan and stressed out', or even just 'ill' past thirty .... five ish IMO.

I love the Dolly Parton quote ''It takes allot of time and money to look this cheap honey''.

I find it takes a fair amount of time and money to just look half way decent these days. And increasingly i cannot be arsed