Priest telling boys how to pee at school?

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Downamongtherednecks Wed 23-Jul-14 21:10:41

Tween ds is at a private school, not UK. Most staff are female. There were incidents of the boys’ loos being left with pee around the lavatory bowl, so a male member of staff (priest) took the boys into the loos (in groups) to tell them that this was unacceptable and to suggest that they aim better and that they should perhaps practice more (!).
This was not discussed at all with parents.
AIBU to think this was not an acceptable thing for the school to do? It seems far too private and something surely better handled by parents. Priest has form for sexism so it is possible that may be one reason I instinctively don’t like it. DH (robustly boys’ private-school educated) says this was fine, it's a boy/male teacher thing, and he can’t see a problem with it. Happy to be told I am being biased against the sexist priest. No intention of taking it up with school btw, as dc are leaving anyway. AIBU?

LongTimeLurking Wed 23-Jul-14 21:12:27

He didn't give them a practical demonstration did he? shock

If not I think it sounds worse than it is. Basically the school would like the boys to stop pissing on the floor.... no an unreasonable request for teen age group really?

as long as he wasnt aiming it for them or giving them a practical demostration then I dont see the issue

Downamongtherednecks Wed 23-Jul-14 21:14:08

grin no practical, though he did say he would put cornflakes down the loo to give them something to aim at.

fledermaus Wed 23-Jul-14 21:14:11

Don't really see the problem with him just telling them not to make a mess?

Bowlersarm Wed 23-Jul-14 21:14:16

I don't see a problem at all.

They needed to be told its not acceptable.

PolterGoose Wed 23-Jul-14 21:14:47

I can't see how sexism or being a priest has anything to do with it. The boys pissed on the floor, a male member of staff told them not to. Why would you need to give permission for your kids to be told not to piss on a floor?

Janethegirl Wed 23-Jul-14 21:15:14

Ping pong ball as target is useful for teaching boys to aim grin

FunkyBoldRibena Wed 23-Jul-14 21:15:34

If the parents are the ones cleaning it up then you I can see your point.

Perhaps teach your bloody kids to aim properly!

17leftfeet Wed 23-Jul-14 21:17:03

Don't see a problem, they were in a group, no practical demonstration took place

Not an issue

BabyMarmoset Wed 23-Jul-14 21:17:29

YABU

1) Him being a priest is irrelevant.
2) Schools are there to teach things, including personal hygiene
3) They would probably expect the pupils to have been taught that at home as well... but clearly the parents haven't
4) Sounds like you are jumping at an opportunity to suppose things about him - he was probably asked to talk to them by an other member of staff

Downamongtherednecks Wed 23-Jul-14 21:20:04

But I don't understand why he needed to take them into a cubicle, show them pee on the floor, and then discuss it with them in that setting? I think it's how it was handled that I find strange. I don't think missing the loo is confined solely to pre-teen boys, given some of the threads I have seen on here about some people's DHs!

GalaxyInMyPants Wed 23-Jul-14 21:20:31

I know a company where the managing director had to do this to the male staff. I was informed the demonstration included a small drinks bottle.

This was after there was so much piss on the floor that it made an elderly employee slip in it and fall over!

Trollsworth Wed 23-Jul-14 21:21:02

This is basic care which should have been done by the parents and hasn't been, or it is little boys being lazy and naughty at school because there is no mother there to tell them off.

Either way, the issue has now been sorted out in an appropriate way .... Ps, cornflakes sink, Cheerios are much better.

YABU, member of staff behaved appropriately.

GalaxyInMyPants Wed 23-Jul-14 21:21:08

Maybe he wanted to show them what a minging state the floor was in?

PedlarsSpanner Wed 23-Jul-14 21:21:21

I an with the priest here

annebullin Wed 23-Jul-14 21:21:24

The cleaner must have asked for a member of staff to speak to them.

3bunnies Wed 23-Jul-14 21:21:49

I think in general I don't have a problem with the discussion although curious as to why he needed to take them in there to have the discussion. Could be a cultural thing though as UK v vigilant to possible child abuse but other countries might not even consider it an issue.

gamerchick Wed 23-Jul-14 21:22:51

I don't see a problem with what you've said. They might aim a bit better afterwards in a group setting stick in the head type of way.

If it was a one on one with each boy then fair enough I wouldn't be happy but as a group, nope.

Bowlersarm Wed 23-Jul-14 21:23:13

Why shouldn't he show them how disgusting the floor is? And that someone else has to do the disgusting job of clearing up after them?

If parents had done their job properly, there wouldn't be a need for the priest to instruct them.

annebullin Wed 23-Jul-14 21:23:32

Taking them and pointing out that they have left piss all over the floor that someone else has to clean up seems like the best way to get the message across.

BabyMarmoset Wed 23-Jul-14 21:24:23

The same reason that when puppy training you take the puppy to the wee and then tell them off... boys are stupid.

If you tell them in an assembly then they will be daydreaming about Minecraft, if you take them to the cubicle it might get into their heads.

Maybe if more boys had this treatment there would be less DHs with an inability to aim.

WorraLiberty Wed 23-Jul-14 21:24:29

But I don't understand why he needed to take them into a cubicle, show them pee on the floor, and then discuss it with them in that setting? I think it's how it was handled that I find strange.

I find it strange that you find that strange confused

Why not show them the pee on the floor?

When the my kids make a mess in the kitchen, I call them in and say "Look at this mess".

It's the only way it hits home sometimes.

RevoltingPeasant Wed 23-Jul-14 21:25:11

I think it's fine <shrug>

Anyone who teaches will know that practical demos are worth a zillion lectures. Saying "boys don't whizz on the floor please" does not have the same impact as making them walk into a loo stinking of stale urine and showing them how gross it is.

Downamongtherednecks Wed 23-Jul-14 21:26:10

Galaxy really? To adult men? I am clearly very sheltered about the whole "discussing a private bodily function in a lavatory cubicle" thing. I can honestly say it would not occur to me to shepherd a bunch of people into a loo to give them a lecture.

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