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AIBU?

To think if the landlord can afford private school they can afford to fix the damp in this flat?

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weatherall · 26/06/2014 12:38

Or maybe they're getting a bursary and not declaring the rental income.

I've just found out that LL's child is being sent to £10k private school next term.

I had previously had a bit of sympathy for her as she bought this flat at top of the market and is most def in negative equity now. Depending on deposit the rent we pay probably isn't much more than her repayment mortgage and la fees.

Structural work needs done eg damp proofing. We have been waiting months and have resigned ourselves to moving as it isn't going to happen. DP has asthma so we can't risk his health from another winter in this damp hole.

But now that her DC is going private I think, well she can afford to get the work done and is just being a s*** landlord.

The other possibility is that she is getting a bursary and possibly not declaring this income.

I assume ainbu to be p ed off.

Wwyd?

Kick up a stink with the la?

Stop paying rent? I'm not going to do this, I think it would be unreasonable.

Report her to the school?

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BettySwollocksandaCrustyRack · 26/06/2014 12:43

Report her to the school for what? Being shitty LL?

Just look for somewhere else to live and give her notice when you find somewhere. Some landlords are just shitty regardless of their financial situation.

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whatsthatcomingoverthehill · 26/06/2014 12:44

It's none of your business whether her child is going to private school or not. She could be driving a Bentley around and it still wouldn't make a difference to what she should do on the property.

If the property is not fit for you being in there, then move.

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APlaceInTheSummer · 26/06/2014 12:48

YANBU to be annoyed that you are living in a damp house.

YABU to think it has any connection to your LL's dc going to private school. A relative could be paying the school fees. Or, as you say, she could have a bursary. Even if she was declaring the flat and the income, if her expenses mean she isn't making much profit then she could still qualify for a bursary. Plus, not all bursuries are means-tested. Some are awarded on merit and don't consider income at all.

I don't think there is anything to report to the school.

If you are going to move anyway because of the dampness then I'd put in writing that you are going to move if remediation work doesn't start within a set period of time. If the effects of the dampness can be mitigated by using a dehumidifier, then get some costings for renting one and put in your letter that if the dampness isn't treated then you will deduct the cost of the dehumidifier from your rent. All of these points will bring the issue to crisis point but if you're thinking of leaving anyway then I don't see what you have to lose.

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NigellasDealer · 26/06/2014 12:50

it is a total non sequiter tbh

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pinkdelight · 26/06/2014 12:50

Unfortunately the fact that they're paying for private education is probably precisely what means they can't afford to fix up the flat. And won't be able to for the forseeable. Is is bad enough to make the place uninhabitable? Is the LL breaking any laws/rules by not fixing it? If not, then I don't know what you can do other than give notice and move out. Whether you're sympathetic to her situation or not is really of no consequence to her. And where she educates her kid is really of no consequence to you. It's a business relationship, conduct it on those terms - take her to task if you're able, otherwise, take your money elsewhere.

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wafflyversatile · 26/06/2014 12:51
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MaidOfStars · 26/06/2014 12:51

Report her to the school?

This made me smile. I am simply baffled at what you might say.

Kick up a stink with the la?

This is, of course, the action you should take. Or move out.

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MaidOfStars · 26/06/2014 12:52

^assuming "la" is "letting agent", not "local authority" or some other body.

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Icelollycraving · 26/06/2014 12:54

Move. Seriously,it is irrelevant where her child goes to school. She is being foolish to not care for a property or her tenants but the schooling is nothing to do with you.

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goats · 26/06/2014 12:55

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KirjavaTheCat · 26/06/2014 12:56

You need to talk to environmental health. They'll force her to fix the damp.

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wafflyversatile · 26/06/2014 12:59

How come my flag has reappeared on this thread. It's gone on others. Confused Angry

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apermanentheadache · 26/06/2014 13:03

The two issues are unconnected. But if the LL is paying for expensive school fees than yes, I can see how you would be narked.

Landlords should pay for remedial work where there is a health or safety hazard in their property. They can be required to do so by the local authority.

To those saying 'just move out'..well, it's not always that easy and it's also costly. However, there is no quick, practical solution that's going to result in speedy resolution and so moving is perhaps the only option.

If it's just a question of recalcitrant uncaring landlord, then the LA can exert pressure but she may then just give you notice :(

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JassyRadlett · 26/06/2014 13:05

She doesn't have a responsibility to her child to send them to private schhool - she has a responsibility to fix your substandard flat regardless of whatever financial situation she may be in. Otherwise she needs to accept that she can't afford to run her business effectively.

Honestly, I do think the school fees are a slight red herring but I can see why they've enraged you. Landlords in this country get away with the most ridiculous abuses.

I'd contact the letting agent to insist on a written undertaking of when the works would start; contact environmental health for an assessment of the situation, and start house hunting. It's grim that you have to do that last one, the system is so unfair.

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apermanentheadache · 26/06/2014 13:05

And don't stop paying rent - you are right that this is usually not a good option.

Shelter gives good advice on issues like this.

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AgaPanthers · 26/06/2014 13:06

"^assuming "la" is "letting agent", not "local authority" or some other body"

Eh?

Why do you think the Letting Agent would give a fuck about the tenant?

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AgaPanthers · 26/06/2014 13:08

The private school is a red herring entirely.

The landlord has a responsibility to you. It doesn't matter if they are in negative equity or not making money, they have a legal duty to make the house habitable.

You shouldn't concern yourself with your their pathetic bleats about how little money they are making. They must fulfil their obligations, regardless of how much it costs them.

If you go in with that attitude then you will be much better off.

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weatherall · 26/06/2014 13:09

I know the school.

There are no non means tested scholarships.

The bursary policy prohibits having a second home.

Either she is defrauding the bursary system (thereby stopping an eligible child from taking a place) or has £10 to spare from next term.

It is the fraud I could report.

I doubt there are rich grandparents paying fees as she is a migrant worker from Poland.

I had sympathy for her before, as I thought she was too broke to afford the repairs. Now I'm annoyed as this can't be true.

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SaucyJack · 26/06/2014 13:10

YANBU. If you ordered a 12" inch Hawaiian pizza from the high street but the owner decided they wanted to save costs so sent you a dry pizza base instead, then you'd be pissed off and they'd be in the small claims cost.

If you paid a tradesperson to re-tile your bathroom but they decided to save costs by sticking Frosties boxes to the wall instead, then you'd be pissed off and they'd be in the small claims court.

I have absolutely no clue whatsofuckingever why it's seen as legal and acceptable for people who are in the business of providing safe and habitable homes to take your money and keep it without giving their customers the service they've paid for.

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specialsubject · 26/06/2014 13:10

not paying rent will get you evicted for lease breach.

what she does with her money is nothing to do with you. But if the place really is damp from structural problems (as it sounds), give notice and leave. Then it is no longer your problem and you are no longer giving money to live somewhere unsuitable.

I keep saying - don't rent dumps.

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APlaceInTheSummer · 26/06/2014 13:10

apermanentheadache I think posters advised moving because the OP said she had resigned herself to moving.

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specialsubject · 26/06/2014 13:12

ps as you've clearly done quite a lot of investigation already, you could report to the school that you are the tenant of this person, if that is the second home that they mean.

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careeristbitchnigel · 26/06/2014 13:12

My DD will be going to a private school when she leaves primary. My parents are paying for it, we certainly can't afford that sort of money.
Perhaps this is the case for your landlord. Maybe her DD is on a scholarship or bursary. Maybe she's been left some money specifically for her DDs education. Maybe her father is paying for it.

One thing's for sure. It's none of your business

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whatsthatcomingoverthehill · 26/06/2014 13:13

Of for goodness sake, stop wondering about her financial position, it is none of your business.

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VitoCorleone · 26/06/2014 13:14

Well the landlord needs to get their fingers out of their arse and sort your damp out - could you not get a council property? Get you GP to write a letter saying the damp conditions are aggravating your Childs asthma, get on the waiting list?

The school thing is irrelevant to this though and not really your business

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