To not know what a chav actually is/means?

(71 Posts)
Chocoholism Tue 15-Apr-14 16:31:54

As it says, I first heard this word many years ago and I still don't really know who or what kind if person a chav is? My initial image is the people you mostly see on the Jeremy Kyle show. AIBU or is that right?
Is it now a class or is it a way a person dresses? Apologies if this has been asked before. I haven't debated it ever.

gertiegusset Tue 15-Apr-14 16:32:47

grin

pilates Tue 15-Apr-14 16:35:28

smile

ENormaSnob Tue 15-Apr-14 16:40:08

I always thought it meant more money than taste.

But now there seems to have been a sway towards a nastier meaning. Like jeremy kyle fodder.

NigellasDealer Tue 15-Apr-14 16:42:19

it is from the Andalucian dialect of spanish, from 'chavale' meaning young boy, used by travelling people, and recently adopted by a wider variety of people to mean 'poorer than us'.
hope that helps.

Aylish1993 Tue 15-Apr-14 16:42:51

I always got told it meant council house and violent. It was supposed to be the same as a townie haha smile

NigellasDealer Tue 15-Apr-14 16:44:54

no it does not mean 'council housed and violent' or 'cheltenham average' or 'chelsea avenue' or any of that other stuff that is bandied about.
travelling people use 'chavvie' meaning small boy.

It means exactly nothing - because every person you ask will give you a different definition. Making the word meaningless, yet offensive.

Objection Tue 15-Apr-14 16:46:11

Well none of the above apply to how the word chav used where I live. It isn't based on the persons wealth at all.

A chav is someone who is rude, arrogant and obnoxious and dresses in a tacky way.
For example; everything is bedazzled, tracksuit bottoms tucked into Ugg boots as everyday wear.
Pauls Boutique stuff is largely viewed as "chavvy".
Leopard print also can be viewed as such.
Baseball caps under hoods.
Tons and tons of slap.
Huge hoop earrings.
Sports gear when not doing sport.

NigellasDealer Tue 15-Apr-14 16:47:03

offensive yes.
my son used to get called a 'chav' in about year three (due to his short blonde hair imo) by some really charming floppy haired children.

Hoppinggreen Tue 15-Apr-14 16:50:14

I suppose it's what my Nan would have called " common"

Lj8893 Tue 15-Apr-14 16:54:01

I think there's many meanings of chav.

As an example I would describe Kerry Katona as a chav. Or any of the kids in the film Adulthood.

NigellasDealer Tue 15-Apr-14 16:55:53

let's face it, it is just a modern and more acceptable way of saying 'common as muck'

Lj8893 Tue 15-Apr-14 16:58:14

nigellas spot on!

Sparklingbrook Tue 15-Apr-14 16:58:48

I don't think it means common at all. I think you can do things that can be perceived as chavvy. I am sure my family and i do stuff like that.

It wasn't until MN I realised that people found it very offensive.

arethereanyleftatall Tue 15-Apr-14 17:18:51

A person who is simultaneously arrogant and ignorant.

usualsuspectt Tue 15-Apr-14 17:20:50

It means anyone you want to look down on.

usualsuspectt Tue 15-Apr-14 17:22:55

My DS has been called a chav because we live on a council estate.

Sparklingbrook Tue 15-Apr-14 17:26:04

Does it usual? sad I really didn't think it did. My two DSs look chavvy in their football tops when not playing football but i am not looking down on them IYKWIM.

Watching all the footballers houses on MTV Cribs-some of them are v chavvy-just awful, yet ££££££££s. confused

thought it was more a taste thing?

MrsDeVere Tue 15-Apr-14 17:28:54

Chav : term of abusive used by those who wish to assert their superiority over others.
It has nothing to do with taste, money, behaviour or class.

Unless we are talking about the taste, behaviour and class of the person using it.

Sparklingbrook Tue 15-Apr-14 17:31:19

Ah ok MrsDV. My understanding is a bit off then.

TBH I haven't heard anyone say it in RL for ages, I don't think the DSs say it-I have not heard them if they have.

IHaveAFifthSense Tue 15-Apr-14 17:35:02

Leopard print also can be viewed as such. tick.
Baseball caps under hoods. No, but DP often does.
Tons and tons of slap. tick
Huge hoop earrings. tick
Sports gear when not doing sport. do trainers count? If so, tick.

I have passed the chav test. Where do I collect my certificate?

thebodydoestricks Tue 15-Apr-14 17:41:49

MrsDevere spot on I think.

Horrible word.

Alisvolatpropiis Tue 15-Apr-14 17:43:41

What Nigella said, essentially.

Sunnydaysablazeinhope Tue 15-Apr-14 17:45:51

I'm from Essex.

There are many that think for that fact alone that I epitomise it.

I play with that. But basically it's another way to show superiority. Aka judgy ness on here.

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