to eat bread while bf a lactose intolerant baby??

[3boys3dogshelp]

Sorry for the aibu but my soup is nearly ready. Ds3 has always been refluxy and on and off had green mucusy nappies but after a yoghurt a few days ago made him really poorly for 24 hours I'm trialling lactose free. The difference has been amazing but I don't know what to eat!! I love cheese and chocolate!

[3boys3dogshelp]

Btw I am going to go back to doctors but can't go til next week.

[GingerBlondecat]

? There is usually no lactose in bread

[Belmo]

Do you mean dairy free? You can't make lactose free breastmilk as it's full of its own lactose.
Bread should be fine although it does often have soya in and quite a lot of kids allergic to dairy are also allergic to soya.

[BananaBumps]

Have I understood this correctly? You are breast feeding a baby who you think is lactose intolerant, so you are changing your own diet?

[MoaningMingeWhingesAgain]

Do you mean dairy intolerant? breast milk is full of lactose.

[sadsaddersaddest]

I don't think your baby is lactose intolerant - breast milk has got lactose!

Your baby is probably allergic / intolerant to cow's milk protein. DD2 was the same.
Bread shouldn't contain any dairy, so your baby should be OK. Just check the labels.

[3boys3dogshelp]

Ok something in my diet has definitely caused ds problems on and off his wghole life. He is my third (all bf) and I know there is a problem. Just weaned approx 4 weeks ago onto veg and fruit and his vomiting and odd nappies improved. 4 spoons of yoghurt and he has been really poorly for 24 hours so for the last 2 days I have cut dairy out of my diet and gone back to fruit and veg for him and he is the happiest/least refluxy/least windy he has ever been. I have every intention of going to the doctor but can't until next week hence the questions!

[3boys3dogshelp]

Ok cmp intolerant presumably I need to avoid the same foods??

[3boys3dogshelp]

Dairy free chocolate? ! I'm on my way to the supermarket! !

[MigGril]

Sounds like a dairy allergy, so you'll need to cut out all dairy. Bread should be ok although some sites contain milk you'll need to watch labels carefully.

It can be a pain to start with but once you get used to it is quite easy to do. It does seem quit common in young babies and great thing it's they often grow out of it quit early on to.

[3boys3dogshelp]

Thanks so much for the tips. Off to stock up!

[VomitingVeronica]

If your baby is cmpi then you need to be careful to avoid soya products too until you have given them a few weeks to recover, then you can try reintroducing soya in a controlled manor to see if if makes a difference.

Here is an old thread that has loads of useful dairy free soya free products listed. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/allergies/a1550631-Surprise-dairy-egg-free-finds-join-me-in-making-a-list

Shop online with ocado - you can select to filter by dairy free etc, its fab! Sainsburys and Tescos should have lists of dairy and soy free foods of the website, ask customers services if you want them to combine the lists.

Good luck!

[VomitingVeronica]

Sorry, I forgot to explain the soya - the protein structures of soya and dairy are very similar so many, but not all, babies with cows milk protein intolerance react to both.

[3boys3dogshelp]

Ds1's best friend is cmp intolerant and his mum had told me to avoid soya too but she has now gone on holiday so I can't quiz her for a few days. Her son can tolerate baked dairy which is why I wasn't sure about bread. I wasn't sure if it was dairy free or he could have it as its been baked.
Thanks for the link that looks really useful.
I'll be so relieved if this is the answer but I can't help feeling really sad too. I have always encouraged his big brothers to eat just like us from being very young and it seems impossible to find a way of doing that now. :-(

[JammieCodger]

Please don't cut anything out of your diet without medical advice. And your son is not your friend's son. Some children can't have any dairy at all, some are ok with goats milk, some are ok with baked milk. My daughter can't have any, but is absolutely fine with soya. See your GP as soon as possible, and get a referral to an allergy specialist as soon as you can. If you do continue to avoid dairy, then make sure you are getting all the calcium you need from other sources.

And just eat dark chocolate. It's not always dairy free, so read the packet, but it's nicer than the stuff pretending to be milk chocolate.

[3boys3dogshelp]

Hi jammie I am aware my son is not my friend's son and as I have already mentioned up thread I have every intention of seeking medical advice but I can't go to the gp without an appointment and i can't get an appointment until next week. After seeing the remarkable change in ds I have no intention of making him ill again while I wait for an appointment thanks.

[sashh]

Will he take a bottle and can you express?

Just thinking that if you can have some frozen breast milk ready you could have the odd bit of dairy and use frozen expressed milk for 24 hours.

Yes I know not everyone can, I know not all babies will take a bottle, I know some babies don't like to change etc etc.

I agree with the others that it is unlikely to be lactose intolerance in your baby, it is incredibly rare in all babies, even in countries where 90% of adults are lactose intolerant.

Also yoghurt and cheese have less lactose than milk so shouldn't create a reaction.

Not saying your baby didn't react to the yoghurt, just that it is probably something else in it.

I think the main thing is to keep your diet as healthy as you can (and you can do that without chocolate and cheese) and your baby is feeding and not having symptoms.

Obviously do go to your Dr but you seem to have found something that works.

[OohOod]

If you're cutting dairy make sure you're taking a calcium supplement.

[addictedtosugar]

It was suggested I went completly dairy free for a few weeks, and then slowly reintroduced trace dairy, cooked dairy etc, monitoring for a reaction in baby.

Bourbons, rich teas and gingernuts were dairy free iirc - tho you need to check every label, as different brands differ........

The Dr may well dismiss you. Ours did even following a trip to A&E. Luckily I asked for a second opinion, and got someone who listened, and refered to a dietician and alergy testing. The referal took a while tho, so I was on my own.

Don't use rice milk was the recomedation years ago, but other dairy free alternatives were OK (we ended up with oatly, calcium enriched).

Check the calcium supliment for dairy!!!

[GertBySea]

I've had a few friends who have had to avoid dairy while BF and then use dairy free formula when the time came. All of them managed to introduce dairy gradually to the child when they were over 1 yo and now all the kids (aged between 3 and 6) have normal diets. So don't despair for the future.

[3boys3dogshelp]

Thanks so much for all the advice. After 5 days dairy free ds3 slept for 7 hours straight last night before he woke up. His sleeping has been so poor (up about 6 or 8 times a night, only settling for me) we have been cosleeping for tbe last 6 weeks which I have never donebefore.
I had been told yoghurt was the least likely to cause a problem which is why I gave that first. He was very sick for about 4 hours then had horrendous nappies for the next day and a half. Maybe it was something else (that i ate?) but it seems a big coincidence.
Sadly he won't take a bottle at all but is doing well with a cup now. I can express but I don't have time! I'll just have to suck it up for a few months.
Sorry for the whingy messages the other day. Feeling much more positive about it all now.
I'll definitely phone my hv tomorrow. She is lovely so I'll try her first.