Workfare scheme for loan parents of children as young as 3, as of next month.

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WaterLoadaCack Tue 01-Apr-14 21:54:52
kilmuir Tue 01-Apr-14 21:56:02

Sounds fine to me

HappyMummyOfOne Tue 01-Apr-14 21:59:10

Makes sense, the longer without work experience the harder it is to get a job.

Working mums get nine months maternity with pay, IS is already years longer than that. Its a good start but IS should only be payable to age one then all mums would be on an equal footing.

WaterLoadaCack Tue 01-Apr-14 21:59:31

Working for 15 hours a week, for no payment sounds fair?

ShakesBootyFlabWobbles Tue 01-Apr-14 22:00:19

Lots of women with children this age work, I am not sure what your point is?

ProlificPenguin Tue 01-Apr-14 22:04:15

Good plan

90sthrowback Tue 01-Apr-14 22:05:11

Is it the unpaid work that you have an issue with or the age of the child?

Roseformeplease Tue 01-Apr-14 22:05:51

Not sure why I should have to go back to work to fund someone else choosing to stay at home on benefits. Also, children do far better in school when they have a working parent as a role model.

formerbabe Tue 01-Apr-14 22:06:54

Really? So they are loaning these parents out then expecting them to work...dreadful

Ponkypink Tue 01-Apr-14 22:07:26

Heh well good luck to them finding the local authority childcare to cover that, since there is nowhere near enough and it's 15 hours if you're lucky so the workfare will have to be on the doorstep of the childcare provider. Hey, here's a novel idea, why not make all the single mums work in a creche looking after their own children so they are working rather than claiming benefits? We could fund this through taxes for 15 hours per week. Oh wait...

UnionofMultitaskers Tue 01-Apr-14 22:08:04

This is awful!

GreenLandsOfHome Tue 01-Apr-14 22:10:09

Working for 15 hours a week, for no payment sounds fair?

Er...wouldn't it be for people getting benefits? Not really 'no payment'.

15 hours a week from age 3 and childcare costs are covered, so it sounds like it's aimed at tying in with the existing free childcare at age 3. I don't see it unreasonable at all.

MoominsYonisAreScary Tue 01-Apr-14 22:10:24

I wonder how much that will cost the tax payer in childcare during school holiday

GiveTwoSheets Tue 01-Apr-14 22:10:33

Ok those saying about funding lone parents on benefits you do realise that your be funding the child care instead

Ruebarb Tue 01-Apr-14 22:11:39

love the term 'loan' parents that's what they will become to their children if they are forced to work this way!

formerbabe Tue 01-Apr-14 22:12:44

How offensive to working mums Ruebarb

GreenLandsOfHome Tue 01-Apr-14 22:12:58

All parents get 15 hours a week funded childcare/school place/whatever. That's not dependant on whether the parent is working or not.

Our 3 year old goes to nursery for 3 hours a day...free.

GreenLandsOfHome Tue 01-Apr-14 22:14:07

How so Ruebarb?

Why is expecting a parent on benefits to contribute for 15 hours a week, the number of hours that most 3 year olds are in nursery/pre-school anyway, unreasonable?

WaterLoadaCack Tue 01-Apr-14 22:14:32

The unpaid work bothers me greatly!

Work focused interviews yes, proof of job search, yes, proof of job applications yes! Not allowed to turn down X amount of jobs before going on job seekers, maybe.

But 15 hours a week unpaid work?

Sorry but working in the back of Wilkos isnt that great for work experience.

Im not in this position, although I do have a nearly 3 yea old and planning to work very soon. Ive been putting the feelers out, asking around and no one but no one seems to have vacancies.

Although admittedly Ive only looked in shops so far as thats where my experience lies.

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit Tue 01-Apr-14 22:14:53

In term time.

MoominsYonisAreScary Tue 01-Apr-14 22:15:33

Green not in school holidays they dont

GreenLandsOfHome Tue 01-Apr-14 22:16:38

It's not unpaid though. The Government is paying you for the 15 hours.

The only difference is, they'll no longer be paying you to give nothing back.

GiveTwoSheets Tue 01-Apr-14 22:16:40

Green This will happen when child has 3rd birthday funding for 3yr old dont always co-inside with term. Also the placements is 15hrs, you have to take into account travel especially if dont drive and school holidays whereas free 15hrs are not covered so extra child care will be a certain.

Joules68 Tue 01-Apr-14 22:17:32

Well a bit more....recent.... Work experience might just get you an interview!?

GreenLandsOfHome Tue 01-Apr-14 22:17:47

No...so if the workfare thing happened, the tax payer would pick up the bill for the 13 weeks that others don't get funded.

Unless of course they made it term-time only.

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