to think that the minimum wage should be higher in London

(236 Posts)
bottlenecker Mon 31-Mar-14 19:25:21

I really do not understand how the national minimum wage can possibly be the same in London as the rest of the country. How on earth can anyone live on that minimum wage?

StarGazeyPond Mon 31-Mar-14 19:27:01

Plenty of us do !

SaucyJack Mon 31-Mar-14 19:29:45

YABU to think it's only in London where one couldn't live on the NMW.

FushandChups Mon 31-Mar-14 19:30:41

YABU

The whole country should be on a living wage.

The minimum wage should be higher, full stop!

wonderingsoul Mon 31-Mar-14 19:35:20

are only londoners allowed to have a living wage? are the rest us deemed not worthy enough?

you do realize things are expensive all over the place right?

bottlenecker Mon 31-Mar-14 19:36:18

I don't disagree that is not a living wage but it is far more expensive to live in London.

People on salaries will get a London weighting but not the people who need it most. It's just wrong.

hunreeeal Mon 31-Mar-14 19:36:19

YABU. This country is too London-centric as it is. Why should Londoners be paid more for doing the same work as everyone else? And eventually trade in their 2-bed London house for a 5-bed house in (place away from London) when those who've always lived in (place) were only paid enough to retire in a 2-bed house there?

OMG how entitled are you!!

Feminine Mon 31-Mar-14 19:38:55

You are being unreasonable. We need a living wage for all. We need it to be high enough to tell the government where to stick their tax 'credit'

bottlenecker Mon 31-Mar-14 19:38:57

Hunreeal

Someone on minimum wage is never going to be able to buy a house in London without financial help.

bottlenecker Mon 31-Mar-14 19:39:34

Pissesglitter

Why am I entitled?

Methe Mon 31-Mar-14 19:41:44

£6.31 is not enough for anyone to live on. Having a minimum wage that is so low that it's impossible to live without government subsidy is fucked up.

If you can't afford to live in London then move.

therighttoshoes Mon 31-Mar-14 19:41:51

YABU people all over the UK struggle to live on minimum wage, there's nothing special about London

hunreeeal Mon 31-Mar-14 19:42:06

> Someone on minimum wage is never going to be able to buy a house in London without financial help.

Perhaps then, if they leave London they should pay it back.

FloozeyLoozey Mon 31-Mar-14 19:42:07

The problem with raising the minimum wage is that companies will just employ fewer people. The economy is so complex, every solution always has a knock on effect.

bottlenecker Mon 31-Mar-14 19:46:10

therighttoshoes

The fact that the minimum wage is too low everywhere is true but it there is something special about London. It's massively more expensive to live and work there.

blackcurrentjuice Mon 31-Mar-14 19:46:53

I thought London didn't have a higher NMW but that most companies paid a generally increased wage to London employees.

I remember working with a company who published across the board pay rises. I got excited and thought I was getting a much higher wage until I'd figured out that it was just the employees in London stores getting that figure ( basic retail position).

Anyway yes NMW does need to be reviewed countrywide, as it's currently unsustainable to live on NMW without state top ups which is a disgrace.

bottlenecker Mon 31-Mar-14 19:48:25

hunreeal
Pay what back?
Young people on minimum wage today in London are highly unlikely to own a 2 bed house that they can cash in and move out.
You seem to think that they can buy, I really don't know where you get that idea from.

Methe Mon 31-Mar-14 19:48:50

There is nothing special about London. A house in Bristol or Oxford will cost you just as much as a house in London.

Methe Mon 31-Mar-14 19:49:20

no-one on NMW can afford to buy a house.

bottlenecker Mon 31-Mar-14 19:49:45

blackcurrentjuice
Some companies do pay London weighting but a cleaner/bar staff will be earning same minimum wage whether they live in London or not.

Skina Mon 31-Mar-14 19:50:22

Nope, yanbu.

There might be 'nothing special' about London according to some, but it's more expensive to live here, rental wise. If London weighting is deemed necessary then it should be across the board.

PercyDarling Mon 31-Mar-14 19:52:26

Hahaha, what an idiotic thing to say!
Why on earth are those of us outside London not entitled to the same?
Does a barista in London work harder than a barista in ???

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