To not get the problem with skin whitening?

(260 Posts)
CogitoErgoSometimes Sat 22-Mar-14 10:59:31

Just seen a video with a singer Dencia 'defending' her decision to lighten her skin and the interviewer suggesting that it means she's uncomfortable being a black woman. Provided the product is safe to use, I don't see why someone lightening dark skin is any different ethically to a pale person using fake tan, or someone putting a dye on grey hair.

Gimmestrength30 Tue 25-Mar-14 12:53:47

I have been reading this thread with interest.

fusedog, I agree with what you have said. I am very dark brown and my mixed race son has green eyes. It was never an issue for me or his father...ffs, he can see out of them, that's all that matters, surely? But then I have people who have asked me whether I can trace my family history back as it's unusual for a child to have such light eyes. Is it? Who cares?

I would never bleach my skin. Ever. But I can see why women would. As a black woman, sometimes, I want to be like a blank canvas, where judgements can't be made on my skin tone. Sometimes, I just want to blend in. Does that make sense?

Sometimes, I want to be treated the same; not better or worse, but the same. Sometimes, I don't want to have to be the spokesperson for the entire black race. Sometimes, I just want to be me. And sometimes, I don't want to have to feel responsible for a crime that someone of the same colour as me has committed (Those guys that killed that soldier)...my whole race was put on trial for something that was fuck all to do with anyone but the assholes who did it, or at least, that is how it felt to me and other black people I know.

Sorry for waffling and I have not meant to offend anyone.

TwittyMcTwitterson Tue 25-Mar-14 12:54:34

Just to reiterate, I'm by no means saying ginger people face any similar persecution for their hair colour as black people for skin colour.

It is simply something 'looked down on' for no reason. But is a general opinion of white people that ginger is less appealing than any other colour.

MistressDeeCee Tue 25-Mar-14 13:28:30

Gimmestrength30 I know exactly what you mean. Being black is just too 'political' sometimes. & thats mainly caused by other people's stereotyping and generalising.

For instance - you can't even just simply get on with life as a mother, for instance..you have to warn your child about what they'll face out there because you just know, if you don't make them aware they're viewed as different often in a negative way as a black child, then someone else will surely let them know, and it won't necessarily be in a good way either. Even if you don't want to, you have to drop that knowledge right into their childhood to try to minimise their shock when the time comes. People who say life/love doesn't see colour are doing so from a position of privilege.

There are so many instances it would be tiring to go into them all.

MistressDeeCee Tue 25-Mar-14 13:29:17

hmm how many times did I type 'instance'>! Sorry...!

ChocolateSnowflakes Tue 25-Mar-14 17:49:53

Gimmestrength you don't need to apologise, but it's a shame that society has made you feel as if you need to 'blend in'

propertyNIGHTmareBEFOREXMAS Tue 25-Mar-14 19:08:03

Yanbu. In these days of crazy cosmetic body modification anything goes.

ChocolateSnowflakes Wed 26-Mar-14 08:15:37

property not to be rude! but have you read the thread at all? And you still don't see why OP is BU? It's not about crazy modification and anything going, it's about the negative connotations - historical and current, that having dark skin holds.

ChocolateSnowflakes Wed 26-Mar-14 08:16:10

I don't know why my iPad changed my comma to an exclamation mark there...

TwittyMcTwitterson Wed 26-Mar-14 08:32:50

I was going to ask the same.

Property, this really is a must read grin

LittleTurtle Wed 26-Mar-14 11:40:08

Black women sometimes have an uneven skin tone - where some parts are darker than others. The skin lightners were there to permanently address that problem. So dab a bit on the darker parts to make you have one unique colour all over (this applies to face and body, knuckles, etc.). It is not because black women are trying to be white. Someone may decide that they would like to have a nice golden all round colour without using a concealer that will rub off etc. Think Janet Jackson in the Again video. To me they are not trying to be white, maybe trying to look like a sunkissed Island babe, more like.

Sure, some will misuse the product and overuse the thing all over. But that is the exception rather than the norm.

Black women also like changing their hair in general, mostly for the fun and diversity it brings. No more than any white woman who may decide that they actually look better with blonde and stick by it. Or put in extensions like Pamela Anderson, cause lots of hair suite them.

No political or self hate agendas here. I think it's a insult to black women to assume otherwise to be honest.

If a white girl, pumps poison botox to her lips, bums etc. then goes and risk skin cancer in the sunbed or direct sun all day, then puts some hair extensions. No one assumes she wants to be Naomi Campbell.

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