Not to celebrate the passing of Fred Phelps?

(36 Posts)
summerbreezer Tue 18-Mar-14 13:20:54

It seems that Fred Phelps, founder of the Westboro Baptist Church, is on his way out:

www.nydailynews.com/news/national/westboro-baptist-church-founder-fred-phelps-reportedly-death-article-1.1723451

Since this news broke, I have heard lots of "I hope he rots in hell" type comments.

Phelps spent a lifetime condemning to hell those whose values were different to his own.

It is ironic that we should fall into the same trap. Will I be sad at his death? No. But I will not celebrate it.

Slippydippysoap Fri 21-Mar-14 13:48:54

I am glad that he is no longer polluting the world with his vile self.

I would never celebrate anyone's death by being a bastard at their funeral/singing/dancing though.

cloggal Fri 21-Mar-14 13:46:40

I think there should be a big love bomb picket at his funeral, lots of positive and happy messages about tolerance. Anything else would be perpetuating hate which is what the man was about.

squoosh Fri 21-Mar-14 13:43:17

Fantastic obituary in Time for dear old Fred.

time.com/32564/fred-phelps-westboro-baptist-obituary/

ElleBellyBeeblebrox Fri 21-Mar-14 01:29:05

I won't be actively celebrating. However, I will quietly feel relieved and pleased that such a spewer of hate is no longer among us to inflict his disgusting views.

SinisterBuggyMonth Fri 21-Mar-14 01:18:55

He has done the most harm to his followers and family

AgaPanthers Fri 21-Mar-14 00:49:25

It's not really a defence of him, more of a 'turn the other cheek', don't picket his funeral piece. Which is fair enough really. Still good he is dead.

ConflictedConfused Fri 21-Mar-14 00:41:45
AgaPanthers Fri 21-Mar-14 00:37:34

It's good that he's dead, because he made the world a much worse place, and continued to do so (unlike say Thatcher, who was head of nothing at her time of death) up to his death.

We can be thankful that his organisation will probably now fade away.

uselessidiot Thu 20-Mar-14 23:02:44

YANBU, celebrating his death would make you as bad as he was. Can't bring myself to mourn him though.
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missingmumxox Thu 20-Mar-14 22:07:40

I don't know, I was in a shit mood and I find that I have cheered up immeasurably since I heard the news.

So his passing unlike his life has added to to total joy quota of many lives, so QED his exsistance and demise where not in vain.... Very cloud and all that

I feel a bit hgtg proving the exsistance of god on that deep and profound thought.

namechangesforthehardstuff Thu 20-Mar-14 21:52:44

Has she said she's forgiving him? I'd agree with you - v interesting meditations on forgiveness in the Simon Wiesenthal book 'The Sunflower' - but I don't think she mentioned forgiveness.

rinabean Thu 20-Mar-14 21:49:29

YABVU. I guess he never held up a sign saying you should get the death penalty, that god hates you, or picketed the funeral of someone you loved. Forgiving would be one thing, but only if you have something to forgive. You can't forgive him for what he did to OTHER people, obviously.

Hmm. I must admit I don't like gleeful celebrations when an unpleasant person dies, it just seems a bit icky, somehow. The most Id manage would be a shrug and a 'no great loss' type comment.
Funnily enough, an acquaintance of mine has just died, and it's all a bit weird on FB at the moment (regarding him, not Fred Bigot). Because to many people he was a charming, lovable stalwart of the social scene. He was charming, or could be when he wanted to. He could be kind, and he could be funny, and he was very clever.
He was also a DV perpetrator, a liar and a conman whose MH issues got progressively worse. I never saw his bad qualities at first hand, but have heard horrifying stories from people I trust about things he did. I can feel some pity for him, because towards the end the inside of his head must have been a pretty terrifying place to be, but I can't say I'm grieving.

picnicbasketcase Thu 20-Mar-14 21:29:17

I think the world is better off without hateful people like him, it's just a shame he's passed on those views to his gullible family members who no doubt will carry on spewing bile at bereaved families. I won't be dancing a jig at his death or anyone else's though.

DrSeuss Thu 20-Mar-14 21:26:42

I believe that someone far greater than me will be dealing with him at this time.

themadcaplass Thu 20-Mar-14 21:23:25

YANBU. People celebrating this man's death are just sinking to his level. The best way to treat it IMO is to ignore it as much as is possible.

CogitoErgoSometimes Thu 20-Mar-14 21:16:58

YABU. Let's not waste too many actual words on the evil bastard but I think a quietly satisfied punch of the air is in order.

Ploppy16 Tue 18-Mar-14 17:26:33

George Takei had a good post on his FB page about how he won't celebrate Phelps' death and why. The Mommyish blog has a good post as well:
www.mommyish.com/2014/03/17/dying-westboro-baptist-church-leader/
He'll die alone and hated by those who should be closest to him and knowing that he made the lives of so many people hell at a time when they should have been left to mourn. I wonder what he thinks is waiting for him?

Goblinchild Tue 18-Mar-14 17:24:25

His son seems to be a brave man

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Phelps

OlympiaFox Tue 18-Mar-14 17:15:17

It's very strange how he started out good and transformed into someone full of hatred and judgement. Maybe he was always bad but hid it until he created his own cult or perhaps something happened to set him on that path? If it was the latter then that's quite sad.

Hopefully his death will allow his family the ability to realise that he was full of shit and open their eyes to the world as it really is rather than viewing it through his perverted lens.

Goblinchild Tue 18-Mar-14 16:50:34

I'm not a revisionist, I speak of the dead exactly how I spoke of them when they were alive.
Never been much good at hypocrisy. smile

winklewoman Tue 18-Mar-14 16:45:33

For God's sake, don't dare say you found his views distasteful else you will have the mob from the Dickson Wright thread berating you for "speaking ill of the dead".

Goblinchild Tue 18-Mar-14 14:01:23

He did harm to many by preaching his poisonous and toxic, twisted version of Christianity. I think he did huge harm to the image of Christianity.
But because of them, he was also responsible for some wonderfully iconic images of ordinary and not so ordinary people standing up against him and his followers.
The funerals ringed by bikes, and their silent riders, to ensure that the mourners were not going to be disturbed is one that springs to mind.
It's uplifting when spite and hatred are challenged by sanity and rational thought.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe Tue 18-Mar-14 13:58:57

These are such clumsy threads when posted (for traffic) in AIBU. It's not an AIBU, is it? It's a discussion about somebody's death/life. Baffles me that a poster has to compose a title because it doesn't fit.

Why would anybody celebrate the passing of anybody? So mawkish. If you want to say that you didn't like him (I've never heard of him) be upfront, no? confused

Nennypops Tue 18-Mar-14 13:56:46

I do quite enjoy the thought of him turning up at the pearly gates confidently expecting to be ushered in only to find himself firmly being sent down to Hades. I equally hope that there will be at least a moment when he realises that actually neither exists.

No, I'm not going to celebrate, but I'm definitely not going to mourn either.

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