To ask you what you would like to say to the Labour Party leadership?

(192 Posts)
happyon Tue 18-Mar-14 12:52:09

This is a bit of a TAAT, but I didn't want to take the other excellent thread in only one direction, so here is a new one.

I'm a member of the Labour Party and I know there are other members here and plenty of voters. I also know that there's a world of rage out there about what this government is doing to this country and how ineffectually Labour seem to be responding.

I suspect that important Labour types will read this if get enough people involved. They need to listen to us or we will have to deal with another Tory government.

I'll begin by saying that I want Labour to:

Support a living wage for everyone, in all parts of the country. Immediately.

Onesleeptillwembley Tue 18-Mar-14 13:52:16

I'd also have to ask - where's Gromit.

Maid, that is exactly how I feel.

Paleodad Tue 18-Mar-14 13:52:56

Please renationalise railways, and stop the flow of public money/subsidies into private 'rail' companies.
Please renationalise major utilities, to stop them ripping us off!
Please make sure we never, ever, have to suffer another Tory government.....

SelectAUserName Tue 18-Mar-14 13:57:40

Echo Maid.

5ofus Tue 18-Mar-14 14:00:03

Yes. I agree with Maid too.

ViviPru Tue 18-Mar-14 14:01:28

Agree sort out the leadership - Its very hard to take Ed Miliiband seriously - He is seriously damaging your electability, he is not the leader of a party let alone head of state, possibly might pass as head boy but thats about it.

Milliband has zero credibility. Balls is a goon. Harriet Harman is insufferable. Andy Burnham gives me the clench fist. All the prominent politicians from the leading parties are irksome but there's something about this lot that I find completely impossible to take seriously.

Nancy66 Tue 18-Mar-14 14:01:40

It's shocking that companies like Starbucks, Google and Amazon can get away with dodging billions in tax. But they do it because it's not illegal. So make it illegal.

Stop NHS tourism. It isn't a myth. It happens a lot.

Look after our teachers

please do something to help bright, young kids into work before they lose all hope - apprentice schemes? Some modern day version of the YTS?

mummymeister Tue 18-Mar-14 14:02:17

Resign. with Milibland and Balls up at the helm they are unelectable. they are saying nothing new, nothing radical other than "see look what the con-dems are doing isn't it awful" Real oppositions put forward real ideas not just knock down what the other side say. Make voting compulsory and install a "none of the above" option.

happyon Tue 18-Mar-14 14:02:32

I hear you maid, I really do.

Do the labour strategists have any idea how desperate we are to have someone to vote for and how close even traditional labour voters (even party members like me) are to not voting labour?

Cranky01 Tue 18-Mar-14 14:05:41

Start building so good affordable homes. Start to increase the supply

Or descrease the demand through getting to grips with immigration/limiting work visas

HauntedNoddyCar Tue 18-Mar-14 14:06:52

I'd like them to move away from theoretical 'socialism' that represents idealism and being so right on it hurts. Move back towards representing the ordinary person. Maybe that means some slightly uncomfortable decisions that don't sit well with the lefty intelligentsia but do represent ordinary people.

Tiredemma Tue 18-Mar-14 14:07:39

Save our NHS.

Stop being fucking Tories in red ties

Renationalise the railways. Renationalise the energy and water companies. Introduce a living wage. Remove loopholes that enable tax avoidance. Make it illegal to use the phrase "we are all in it together" without meaning it or enacting policies contrary to it. Change party funding arrangements to a set amount per party, funded by tax. Not a lot, get creative.

Mps salaries should be set at the current average salary in the UK. Voting should be made easier and more accessible to everyone. I find it shocking that more people vote for x factor than for parliament.

Oh, and grow some bloody balls will you? Like other posters, I agree you are not providing an alternative to the current c u next Tuesdays and you are missing out on a lot of votes if you don't realise this

SolomanDaisy Tue 18-Mar-14 14:19:16

They need to get a load of new people into parliament at the next election, so they can have a different team fronting the election after that. They need these people to stand out from the Cameron - Blair mould - not career politicians and not a load of ex public school boys. Encourage local parties to select people from the area, have people with regional accents and job titles people understand on election leaflets. Labour needs to visibly represent 'the people'.

grimbletart Tue 18-Mar-14 14:25:38

Go and learn some basic economics so that next time you are in power you understand that spending (other people"s) money that you haven't got is not sensible.

mummymeister Tue 18-Mar-14 14:25:52

SolomanDaisy - great idea in principle. but the practice is lots of people moan about how rubbish it all is but wont get involved. ordinary/real people just don't have or want to find the time or the funds to do this any more. the idea of civic duty went out when both parents had to work just to keep heads above water. I see thread after thread on here "someone needs to do something about XX" what no one appreciates is that we, you, me are that someone. Give up my job to campaign to be an MP. put in loads and loads of unpaid hours in the hope of being elected. sorry, cant afford it. so instead I am just a parish councillor. 1 day a month but I do try to make a difference.

SolomanDaisy Tue 18-Mar-14 14:35:01

There are plenty of labour activists acting as local councillors, many of whom could be MPs with the right support.

DrankSangriaInThePark Tue 18-Mar-14 14:42:10

What SolomanDaisy is saying- and what I asked Ed Mili in his webchat, which he never answered.

Why oh why are the constituencies filled with careerist politicians when there are hundreds, probably thousands of totally dedicated grassroots activists who could inspire the next generations? There seems to be some fucking lego-playmobil factory somewhere churning out middle-class smart boys who want to play at politics for their 15 minutes. (I don't actually class the Milibands as such, they were socialists in the womb, but have been worked on and toned down over the years by the faceless bureaucrats at HQ)

Imnotmadeofeyes Tue 18-Mar-14 14:44:05

Stop undervaluing everything none profit making and trying to squeeze a sodding buck out of it.

When everybody has a secure roof over their heads, education and healthcare then perhaps free enterprise will actually flourish with innovations when people aren't worrying about scraping by.

And sorry OP but I believe this living wage line everybody's spouting at the moment is pure bullshit and won't work, all it'll do is push up other prices. Let's work at it from the other end and bring the cost of living into line with what people are actually earning. Social housing which is forever ignored would be a start.

Even the guy who originally proposed the minimum wage as a 'thing' doesn't believe raising it without properly considering other factors is a plan that'll work.

Merefin Tue 18-Mar-14 14:44:36

Great thread. So good to see that there are some left wingers out there! I used to belong to the Labour Party but I'm very disillusioned since the Blair years....outrageous war mongering and pandering to Murdoch.

Agree Ed M is a no hoper. Also agree with re-nationalising basic services including transport. Stop academy programmes of schools...they belong to local communities not 'trusts' run by Gove's friends/Tory sympathisers.

Feel very down since Tony Benn died. Where's the next one like him?

Proud that I've brought my children up to be socialists though...maybe they could stand for election!

pointythings Tue 18-Mar-14 14:47:09

Create enough social/affordable housing so that house prices rebalance themselves.
Put in a moratorium on meddling in education for at least 5 years so that we can get some evidence on what works and what doesn't, then base policy on that.
Bring in rent controls.
Restore minimum house size standards (as abolished by Maggie in the 80s) so that any new builds don't end up being tiny rabbit hutches.
Stop privatising stuff - I don't think renationalising is possible, sadly.
Grow a pair and dare to be different from the Tories.

Imnotmadeofeyes Tue 18-Mar-14 14:49:22

I'm with mummymeister on compulsory voting.

A couple of election results with 'none of the above' results and these parties would have to start actually working out what the electorate want.

I think I would vote for any party offering that in their manifesto. A term of shitbags for real long term effect would be worth it imho.

TheBody Tue 18-Mar-14 14:55:04

brilliant thread and agree with all especially vivipru and onemoresleeptillwembly

just bloody listen. and ffs abolish or reduce tuition fees and being back apprenticeships so youngsters get a chance if a job and a wage. more affordable housing.

stop meddling in the NHS and education and let teachers and doctors/nurses run schools and hospitals themselves. get rid of the layers of management and the joke that is Ofsted.

TheBody Tue 18-Mar-14 14:57:48

I am very much afraid though that the Tories won't so much win the next election but that labour will loose.

Ed Milliband has to go. I just think cheese grommet. I know it's wrong but I can't help it. he has no gravitas.

mummymeister Tue 18-Mar-14 15:02:09

"......There are plenty of labour activists acting as local councillors, many of whom could be MPs with the right support....." but support from whom SolomonDaisy? are you talking financial, moral what? The posh boys get in because they have the money to be unpaid interns. they have the money to live in London. they have the money to smooze at events and be seen in the right (political ) places. its got sod all to do with talent. its got everything to do with time and wanting to put the effort in to overcome the lack of money or connections. Look at how many politicians are from what I call career political families. father was a union leader. mother on the local council etc. (or in some cases father in the house of Lords) look at the schools they went to. of the 650 MP how many are state educated? The current political system is not working. theres no red, orange or blue any more. only grey. Stale, pale and male everywhere you look.

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