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To think at the end of the Ballad of Lucy Jordan

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She jumps of the roof?

Orangeanddemons Sat 15-Mar-14 18:57:53

I thought she was led down to the long white car......?

I love love this song, but sometimes when I contemplate the much hated housework I feel like she mst have felt.

Although I have driven through Paris in an open top car with the warm wind in my hair grin

flipchart Sat 15-Mar-14 18:58:01

I thought she was taken away to an asylum.

flipchart Sat 15-Mar-14 19:01:22

*And she bowed and curtsied to the man
Who reached and offered her his hand
And he led her down to the long white car that waited past the crowd*

She had climbed on to the roof top but is talked down by the man. Who takes her to the long white car (ambulance waiting for her). Past the crowds ( public, spectators)

Nomama Sat 15-Mar-14 19:01:30

The man who reached out his hand led her from the roof to the long white car..... and she realised she had found forever and was suddenly in Paris.

So yes, she jumped.

flipchart Sat 15-Mar-14 19:04:10
PortofinoRevisited Sat 15-Mar-14 19:04:27

I thought she was escorted from the roof to an ambulance and the "forever" referred to her essentially having gone mad. It's one of my favourite ever songs - though it seems a bit odd writing that in this context grin

Morgause Sat 15-Mar-14 19:04:42

She jumped.

Orangeanddemons Sat 15-Mar-14 19:06:06

I thought she ended up in hospital and her forever was her illness

PortofinoRevisited Sat 15-Mar-14 19:06:16

Oh x posts.

flipchart Sat 15-Mar-14 19:06:23

Read the Wikipedia. Marianne faithfully said in n interview what the song actually means.

She goes to a mental hospital.

Nomama Sat 15-Mar-14 19:11:15

Marianne Faithfull sang it with her meaning, as stated in Wikipedia, but Shel Silverstein was not known for his happiest of endings.

The rest of the lyrics contain a deliberate and provocative contempt of women, in context of the time Silverstein may have been taking a pop at the new wave of feminists, like Erica Jong.

So I am sticking with she jumped. But I don't suppose there is a right or wrong answer.

flipchart Sat 15-Mar-14 19:14:38

I'm going with the asylum bit as she has gone into delusional/ fantasy mode as she bows and curtesy to the observers and as the ambulance is speeding through the streets she thinks she has her wish of driving through Paris.

Great song from my teenage years!

Nomama Sat 15-Mar-14 19:22:02

I'm sticking with as she courtesied and bowed the helpful bloke gave her a shove. smile

I even remember the original shock but own the Faithfull version, I love that album.

Nomama Sat 15-Mar-14 19:23:15

And have you noticed the OPs name?

I'm singing that now ' on white horses let me ride away....'

Eeeeeeeeeeek! smile

Orangeanddemons Sat 15-Mar-14 19:40:32

....faaaar a-waaay...on white horses..grin

Hehe... my name is actually a climbing route up a sea cliff, although in reality I've probably got more chance of the sports car through Paris than completing it!
Yep I agree with Nomama I'm not convinced about MF's interpretation of it although I love her version. Interesting about the misogynistic reading of it. I think MF certainly transcends that.
And another AIBU... to think she's having a wank in the first verse?

magimedi Sat 15-Mar-14 20:01:29

I just love this song!

Here it is for those of you who have not heard it:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0NxhFn0szc&feature=kp

My DH's major claim to fame is that he danced with Marianne Faithful at the Rickt Tick club - many, many years ago!

He has never forgotten it! grin

drnoitall Sat 15-Mar-14 20:04:54

I love this song. Can't explain why because it gives me goosebumps.
It always makes me think she jumped because she was fed up with her dreary life and her dreams passing her by.
Ohhhh I will have to listen again now.

flipchart Sat 15-Mar-14 20:12:39

But those of you saying a bloke pushed her off the roof, where has he come from, surely a paramedic in an ambulance ( the French have white ambulances) would be more likely with a crowd of rubberneckers who she has to pass through to get to it.

Love the thoughts and interpretations on this song! Also love her cover of working class hero.

Starsandcars Sat 15-Mar-14 20:35:55

What are the odds of hearing this song for the first time at 37. Thank you - she sings it like she knows the person and cares for them .... Definitely gone to hospital

Nomama Sun 16-Mar-14 08:46:14

Sorry flipchart - being shoved was me being flippant.

The mysterious man was God / Archangel Gabriel welcoming her home and the crowd were angels.

Erica Jong had just published Fear of Flying and the book and song have a few references in common. So that first verse is definitely about masturbation - something we ladies simply couldn't do, remember!

i love this song.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mvAMEaWgTQ

used to like to play this

oops the link i posted, i forgot the actual lyrics shock

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