To wonder where the allergies go?

(150 Posts)
Defnotsupergirl Thu 06-Mar-14 08:26:30

To start off I'm not saying there are not some very serious, life threatening allergies out there.

My wondering is why you don't come across more adults with these allergies. I work directly with 40 odd adults i.e. We share a fridge and working space etc. none of them have any allergies that I know of apart from one lady who has coeliac disease - and I'm assuming I would know if others did due to having to be careful about birthday cakes, only using certain parts of the fridge etc. no one refused cake or didn't use the fridge.

Up till four years ago I work with another group of people except about 80 of them and none had any known allergy.
None of my friends or acquaintances have ever said they have allergy problems despite me cooking for them and checking in many cases

If you compare with friends DCs school, five of the reception children in a class of 22 have some form of supposed food allergy. Apparently this is a reoccurring theme throughout the school.

Is it that people grow out of these allergies or is it the imagination of over careful parents who see an allergy every time their child vomits after a meal.

AIBU to suggest that there are not as many allergies around as is thought and that it is parents who are quick to blame simple bugs on allergies?

Please note - I again realise there are some life threatening allergies that exist and are a huge problem. This is for the other ones.

anchories Sat 08-Mar-14 19:05:40

I am not sure that LaGuardia will come back. She may have history of this sort of thing.

FanjoForTheMammaries Sat 08-Mar-14 18:17:32

My DD has autism and severe learning disability and no desire for or understanding of attention really.

But she does tend to swell up and get a big rash and a wheezing cough when she has eggs, fish, peanuts or lentils.

FanjoForTheMammaries Sat 08-Mar-14 18:16:11

What an ignorant post.

anchories Sat 08-Mar-14 18:16:00

LaGuardia. I remember seeing your name about mumsnet and know what you are like! smile

But nut allergy doesnt normally work that way, unless the person is super super severe.

My son is just severe!
He has to have just a bit of it on his tongue to go to anaphylactic shock.
Or playing a game of cards with someone else in the group with say peanut butter on their hands, and they are playing cards with him. That is enough to potentially kill him. [He only has 15 minutes to have the epipens and pills or he is likely to die].

So it would be a potentially deadly game if there was someone in your workplace close to you who is allergic enough.
Is there that you know of?

zoemaguire Sat 08-Mar-14 18:12:24

Yes LaGuardia my 5yo dd just looves not being able to eat birthday cake and chocolates at school along with her friends. Shethinks 'well,this is worth it for the extra attention'.

hmm There's always one.

LaGuardia Sat 08-Mar-14 17:44:53

YANBU. I regularly take peanut butter sandwiches to work, and wait for someone to keel over, but no-one ever has. People just love the attention a supposed allergy brings. Ditto vegetarians.

HadABadDay2014 Sat 08-Mar-14 17:36:52

DS was breast fed and is allergic to cauliflower, his tonsils swell up and has loads of mouth ulcers a and gets very unwell.

AntiJamDidi Sat 08-Mar-14 17:30:32

I was allergic to eggs when I was small. Cooked in cakes etc was ok but not eggs on their own fried, scrambled, boiled,etc. I grew out of it. I'm not sure how old I was when I grew out of it but as an adult I'm fine with eggs and eat them a lot.

I know 3 adults with severe nut allergies and another 6 with intolerance to something. I know a lot more children than adults but only know 2 children with a severe allergy.

monkeynuts123 Sat 08-Mar-14 17:25:57

Why doesn't the op just come out with it and say the parents of kids with allergies are neurotic over-cleaning freaks and it's their fault their overprotected kids end up with 'allergies' most of which are made up or exaggerated. That's what you really meant wasn't it op? If you wanted an education in it all why not just google, you brought it here to wind people up. As the parent of a child with serious allergies I find your attitude boring and ignorant.

harriet247 Sat 08-Mar-14 17:08:16

My dd is slowwwwly overcomibg dairy allergy, although i suspect it will take years and then return like mine did.
I think if you dont live with someone with a allergy it is haes to understand, the amount of family that think nothing of givibg her cheese or chocolate is astounding, only to brush it off. I have to deal with the consequences for houra afterwards. Very frustrating.

aintnothinbutagstring Sat 08-Mar-14 16:56:56

Lots of children outgrow milk and egg allergy in particular. My DS has outgrown his egg allergy but its unlikely he will ever outgrow his serious peanut allergy and will have to carry epipens for life.

People that do have allergies (or intolerances), serious or otherwise, don't mention it in everyday conversation and are well used to managing things like eating out or bringing food into work without causing too much fuss. I've known two friends for donkey's years yet only recently discovered they carry epipens.

I don't like the attitude that is typical of yours though OP, allergies are an arse for all involved, not least for the poor kids that suffer them, given that allergies are part of the wider 'atopic' condition they often have eczema and asthma to varying degrees also.

YmightbeBU. I have a celery allergy which is easily dealt with by not eating celery. This was diagnosed after I nearly died, not an experience i particularly want to repeat. Plenty of people think I am inventing this because it isn't peanuts or dairy and therefore you "can't" be allergic to it.

However I do know some people (sends the hairy eyeball towards Facebook) who are having their little darlings diagnosed with allergies by sending a lock of hair (and a lot of money) off to a charlatan clinic who obligingly returns with a printed sheet of allergens. The NHS website politely suggests that "Some commercial allergy testing kits, such as hair analysis tests, kinesiology tests and VEGA tests, are not recommended by doctors because there is little scientific evidence to support them." which I think means "this is horseshit." So I do understand the thought process behind the people who assume my allergy is invention.

Obv a nursery / school etc doesn't know which child has had a proper allergy test and will be in pain / in hospital if they eat something, and which is guesswork by someone who specialises in diseases of the rich, so best to err on the side of caution.

nostress Fri 07-Mar-14 16:15:59

'Serious' as in needing epipen.

DS1 breastfed for 8 months Eczema from birth, hayfever really bad from 1.

DS2 breastfed for 2.5years. Food allergies from weaning (6months), hayfever (mild) but no eczema.

Me asthma/eczema.
DH mild food allergy to two types of fruit....

nostress Fri 07-Mar-14 16:10:22

Is this just a perception thing? My DS has multiple food allergies. I popped into see the school nurse because they are going on a residential trip to France. She is going with them and I just wanted someone to keep an eye on him as he is a eat & see if I get allergic type of boy rather than being cautious. She mentioned out of 80kids going (all year 6) only 2 had serious food allergies.

deakymom Fri 07-Mar-14 15:23:06

they are not usually allergies mostly intolerances mine is because i have graves disease because it has gone on longer than it should have ive developed food intolerances my son (2nd) was milk intolerant for 18 months youngest son is intolerant to everything sad and allergic to egg its quite common in our area

wobblyweebles Thu 06-Mar-14 21:38:33

I had pre-eclampsia with one of my non-allergic ones...

bruffin Thu 06-Mar-14 21:17:27

My allergic one i had pre eclampsia and was in hospital for the last 6 weeks of my pregnancy.

babybarrister Thu 06-Mar-14 21:16:30

Anyone looking for absolutely uptodate and department of health approved objective information, have a look at anaphylaxis campaign

Anaphylaxis Campaign really is an excellent spurc of good info and has an excellent helpline too

Caterina99 Thu 06-Mar-14 20:51:15

I'm allergic to peanuts and intolerant to dairy. Not to such a severity that I couldn't share a fridge with your peanut butter, so unless you specifically asked me then you would never know because I simply do not eat foods that make me ill.

I would tell you about the peanuts if I was coming to dinner, but I probably wouldn't mention the dairy, as I can eat it, just not too much of it and I usually just avoid dessert or anything too creamy looking.

As an adult this is my choice to make, but if it was my child then I would probably insist on peanut and dairy free food for them.

MissYamabuki Thu 06-Mar-14 20:37:40

My food allergies started in my teens and haven't gone anywhere sad

no vomiting involved, lots of swelling and itching. My parents didn't have a clue what was going on.

A blood test can establish easily whether you are an allergy sufferer or not.

It's hard to"imagine" all this... i think you are getting mixed up between allergy and intolerance. I think usually a food intolerance means you lack something in your gut (certain enzimes?) which means you are unable to process some foodstuffs.

I can't imagine you can do much to avoid either; i personally don't buy the cleanliness theory at all. Really surprised at some of your assumptions, i thought there was better awareness of allergies these days.

SackAndCrack Thu 06-Mar-14 20:27:02

I had a significant difference in pregnancies with my two.

With my allergic one I had PUPPP.

Apparently, no one knows exactly what its caused but most who suffer go on to have boys and its quite literally the mothers allergic reaction to the baby......

wobblyweebles Thu 06-Mar-14 20:22:10

No real difference in my three pregnancies other than in one pregnancy I was obsessed with eating tomatoes.

Only one child has any allergies. She was obviously a very reactive child from the moment she was born. She had worse baby acne, her nappy rash was far worse than the others, she had eczema pretty much from birth.

I don't really see how it can be cause by lack of exposure to bacteria and germs, or by anything I ate in pregnancy, or by any drugs I took. They were all exposed to the same chemicals, pollution, etc.

The allergic one was weaned latest and was exclusively bf till 6 months.

Likeaninjanow Thu 06-Mar-14 20:14:06

Twintery, both were ventouse deliveries. 1st had group b strep so the 2nd birth (allergic child) involved me having antibiotics intravenously.

Both breast fed, I'm not a clean freak (at all). I honestly can't think of anything done differently, other than the anti-bs.

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Thu 06-Mar-14 17:48:31

fewer women breastfeeding, mixed messages about weaning, weaning with unsuitable foods, over protection IE too clean, fewer antibodies, more chemicals, pollution, additives etc etc all possobly contribute IMO but I don't know, it does sometimes seem a convenient excuse but living with an allergy is a right old pain <52 and a walnut allergy> grin

carabos Thu 06-Mar-14 17:39:03

I am 50 and have become allergic to honey for no apparent reason in the last few years. The strange thing about allergies is that they do come and go, and the ones that are permanent can subside for ages. DH is allergic to all sorts of dander, and at one time it was a real pain. He does seem to have grown out of it to an extent now he's 50 though wink.

To my mind, it's a wonder that more people aren't allergic given the amount of chemicals and pollutants in our lives. It's pretty amazing what our bodies can learn to tolerate.

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