To think this girl won't turn 18 tomorrow?

(77 Posts)
CrohnicallyFarting Thu 27-Feb-14 19:53:00

I was listening to the radio, and they were wishing a happy birthday to someone who is celebrating their 18th birthday tomorrow (28th Feb).

The thing is, she was born on Feb 29th. Obviously, this year isn't a leap year, so she can't celebrate her actual birth date. But I can't help thinking she's celebrating a day early and she should actually have 1st March as her 'birthday' in non-leap years.

I just have this vision of the poor girl going out for a few drinks tomorrow to celebrate as is customary for people turning 18, only for her to get IDed and turned away for not actually being 18 yet.

So AIBU or is she?

KissesBreakingWave Thu 27-Feb-14 20:39:31

INeed, If you're born on the 1st January, you're a year old at the beginning of the 31st December following, legally. That which happens on a day, unless specified otherwise, happens at the first moment of that day. The 1st January following that is the first day of your second year.

IneedAwittierNickname Thu 27-Feb-14 20:41:44

I agree that the 1st Jan would be the 1st day of my 2nd year, but surely I'm not a year old until the end of the day on 31st December? Still confused

LynetteScavo Thu 27-Feb-14 20:43:33

Of course she will be 18 tomorrow.

She's not 4 years old, is she!

And if you count your birthday by days, ie 365 X 18, then she will be 18....(lets someone else do the maths as I've ahd a wine and need to put DS2 to bed.

CrohnicallyFarting Thu 27-Feb-14 20:46:07

That's another thing. I get that someone born on the 29th February only has an actual birthday every 4 years, but after 72 years they are definitely 72 years old even though it's their 18th birthday. They can't be 18 because the 'years old' is implied.

And I'm sorry for any alarm my thread title caused, I honestly hadn't realised it could be taken like that till someone said!

CrohnicallyFarting Thu 27-Feb-14 20:47:46

Lynette- that's not what I meant. I know she is turning 18, but can she legally drink tomorrow or does she need to wait till March 1st as Feb 28th is actually the day before her actual birth date?

CrohnicallyFarting Thu 27-Feb-14 20:49:59

kisses but if I was born at 12 noon on 1st January, my year isn't completed till 11:59 on 1st January, so I can count the first moment of 1st January as being a year old. Surely?

tb Thu 27-Feb-14 20:52:31

Jean I thought of Pirates of Penzance, too grin

merrymouse Thu 27-Feb-14 20:55:07

Agree with Maureen. I think we all just have to get through the next couple of days by imagining that she is having a meal at home with her family on the Friday night and going out with her mates on the Saturday. I think that would make more sense for her anyway because presumably she is at school tomorrow and might want to get her hair done before she goes out.

meditrina Thu 27-Feb-14 20:55:43

Once upon a time I had a rather good looking young colleague who invited us all for drinks to celebrate his 6th birthday. Rather a good do, and not remotely like a typical children's party

JeanSeberg Thu 27-Feb-14 20:58:03

Jean I thought of Pirates of Penzance, too

Great minds think alike tb!

CrohnicallyFarting Thu 27-Feb-14 21:00:35

Thank goodness for family meals. Actually, that makes me think even more. She could go out for a meal with her family, and so long as someone over 18 orders a bottle of wine, and she sits down for the meal, she can drink some of the wine regardless of whether she's turned 18 or not.

At least, that's what we were taught when I was at school, that you can drink wine at 16 with a sit down meal so long as an over 18 orders it. in fact, at our leaving do the teachers ordered us some wine to go with our meal. And I had some even though I hadn't even turned 16 yet.

Hulababy Thu 27-Feb-14 21:00:38

My uncle always celebrates his leap year birthday on the 28th February.

A person with a leap year birthday still accumulates the normal number of years for the ages. They just have a quarter of the actual birthdays.

LynetteScavo Thu 27-Feb-14 21:01:20

Well, If I was serving her in a pub, or a bouncer on the door, I would let her in.

If my birthday suddenly disappeared, I damn well want a drink the day before, in the same month.

Probably, in a court of law, she won't be 18 until the 1st march.

Maybe someone should test it out? Or maybe someone already has, and there is a definitive answer. Actually, there must be.

Aren't there any solicitors on this thread?

CrohnicallyFarting Thu 27-Feb-14 21:03:17

lynette if you acknowledge that in a court of law she wouldn't be 18 till march 1st, you'd let her into a venue/serve her alcohol and knowingly break the law and risk prosecution?

LynetteScavo Thu 27-Feb-14 21:10:25

Yes, because I am currently under the influence of a rather decent bottle glass of red wine

I don't acknowledge in a court of law she would still be 17, I suspect. I'm not a lawyer, I don't have a law degree, I'm just guessing. (The law tends to err on the side of boring IME wink)

HadABadDay2014 Thu 27-Feb-14 21:13:07

www.nydailynews.com/news/national/leap-day-babies-woman-birth-consecutive-leap-day-article-1.1031726

AnnabelleLee Thu 27-Feb-14 21:13:07

Seriously, risk prosecution? Do you think the police and courts have nothing better to do? Don't be daft.

CrohnicallyFarting Thu 27-Feb-14 21:18:32

annabelle I don't know about where you live, but round here underage drinking is taken very seriously. The police do undercover operations where they send minors into pubs/clubs/shops to attempt to buy alcohol. They also do random checks of licensed premises to ensure that everyone is of a legal age. People can and do get prosecuted for allowing underage drinking.

CrohnicallyFarting Thu 27-Feb-14 21:19:25

lynette I think if you were really in that situation, you'd err on the side of boring too?

Sallyingforth Thu 27-Feb-14 21:20:49

Pirates of Penzance anybody?

I've sung Ruth's part! "When Fred'rick was a little lad he grew so brave and daring..."

LynetteScavo Thu 27-Feb-14 21:24:44

Well, if I were making up the law as I went along, and I was a judge wearing a curly wig, having the final say on whether a publican was right or wrong to serve half a larger to someone who celebrating their birthday under these circumstances, I would declare there is no case!

(Dramatically while slamming down my gavel)

That's probably not how these things work, though.

HadABadDay2014 Thu 27-Feb-14 21:24:57

I would rather not sell age restricted things, I have tried googling but found nothing, so rather protect my job/business

CrohnicallyFarting Thu 27-Feb-14 21:25:59

I suspect it depends on whether the judge is under the influence of a bottle glass of red.

CrohnicallyFarting Thu 27-Feb-14 21:27:07

HadaBadDay- do you mean you'd rather not sell them at all?? Or rather not take the risk of selling to someone underage?

LynetteScavo Thu 27-Feb-14 21:34:34

Well, when does the Queen send out telegrams to people who are 100 yo? On the 28th, or the 1st????

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