to think if you live in surrey sussex kent, home counties i spose and you work in the city

[LucyLasticBand]

you shouldnt complain about the trains!
you want the best of both worlds.

[NoIamAngelaHernandez]

That is a ridiculous comment. Why shouldn't people have the best of both worlds?

[fairylightsatchristmas]

?? How bizarre. Why is someone not allowed to have the best of both worlds if they are paying ££££ train fares and ££££ mortgage?

[DoctorDonnaNoble]

Those routes also cover more rural commuting. And certainly when my family moved to a 'home county' place and my dad commuted to London by train it was because that was the closest to London we could afford. In our particular area we have one of the shabbiest and underfunded lines in the country surprisingly! It's really, quite rubbish. We've had service disruption most weekends for about 5 years to sort this out, and there are still regular delays. So yes, I suppose I think YABU because it's a bit more complicated than a bunch of rich people moaning.

[Chippednailvarnish]

People paying high fares and then not getting what they have paid for. The bastards.

[FuckyNell]

Whose moaning about trains?

[DoctorDonnaNoble]

Everyone - as it happens I believe my local servie Anglian is one of the worst - several areas now have less than 50% satisfaction rates - it's not just commuters moaning.

[Beccadugs]

We live on Surrey ( the less nice part) because for the price of our house we couldn't buy a bedsit anywhere in London that wouldn't require DH taking a train.
Even with the cost of commuting it is significantly cheaper to live here.
His train fares are huge, he never gets a seat, and at least once every couple of weeks I have to go and collect him from an alternative line. Why shouldn't he complain?!

[LucyLasticBand]

well you got to pay for something, either pay for the service or pay to live nearer to the service.

putting up prices in the countryside, bunch of nimbies, not even using the local services. commuters! aargh

[Bowlersarm]

Get out of bed the wrong side this morning op?

[LucyLasticBand]

obviously struck a cord

[SnowBells]

YABU. Do you know how much train fares cost? Only in England do they charge you a humongous amount for the commute, without giving much back. Like your ticket isn't actually worth a seat…

Why do you want to provide an excuse for train companies who rip off consumers??? They hold them hostage, and that should not be allowed.

[uc]

How shocking - people complain because a service doesn't provide what it promises - trains that run regularly and on time. It's got nothing to do with demographics.

[DoctorDonnaNoble]

All the commuters I know do use the local services! They are also paying over the odds for the train service. We ALL are - compare to the service provision over the rest of Europe!
The train services in the Home Counties are not just for commuters into London. They cover more local commutes as well. Oh, and for the rest of us to go into London to see a show. I went up to Scotland for the rugby the other weekend I feel the right to complain about arriving 3 1/2 hours late even though I don't live there. It was the first train out of London for about 3 hours - I think the commuters have the right to complain as well.

[teaandthorazine]

Where do you live and work then, OP? So we can all follow your example, you know...

What a bizarre post.

[AfricanExport]

YABVU

Actually to the point of the ridiculous.

I believe we pay one of the most expensive fares in Europe for a service which is, in some areas, dire. I pay to get the trains to work everyday and I expect that service to work, just like my boss expects me to arrive on time. If they are unable to provide the service they advertise/ offer / committed to on signing a government contract to run the line then they should not have a monopoly on it, unfortunately I do not have a choice of what train company I use. They have a duty and obligation to their client and to be fair,to the country as a whole to run an efficient service as promised.

We should not sit back and take it. Personally I think all Londoners should hold a sit in (I.e go plonk ourselves on Leadenhall or Bishopsgate at lunchtimes etc and stop traffic). Because as it is nothing will change as the shareholders get their cash.. and that's ALL that matters

ps. My train line is terrible probably late about 60% of the time. So sorry if I sound slightly annoyed.

[FuckyNell]

bunch of nimbies!

[FuckyNell]

What's a nimby?

[LucyLasticBand]

Not in My Back Yard.

[vestandknickers]

Wow OP - had a bad morning have you?

[LucyLasticBand]

those folks who buy the executive houses in the home counties, ideal for the commute, then complain when more houses are built and spoil their view. for example.

[Slebmum]

Really? What an odd thing to say. I pay a fortune for my train tickets, can't buy a season as work part time. Why can't I complain about the trains?

Oh, and I work in the West End, not the City. Does that mean I am allowed to complain?

[SnowBells]

I think City employers should let all employees work from home for a month - and let the train companies deal with the loss of income.

[DoctorDonnaNoble]

That's a really small percentage of the people living in the Home Counties you know.

[tomverlaine]

I don't even understand the supposed logic of this- how is being a nimby connected to complaining about a commute?? that would only make sense if I was complaining about a trainline being too close and disturbing me.

YABU and nonsensical

[AfricanExport]

Yay! Snowbells.

Let's do that