To home ed my dd

(213 Posts)
Mishmashfamily Fri 31-Jan-14 20:16:01

After reading posts and posts about unhappy kids/parents at school I'm really considering it. Also I hate the fact that strangers that are apparently 'in charge' of our educational welfare can dictate when we take our children away, what they are taught ect....

I came out of the school system with nothing and had to learn every thing through college , taking courses. I think I could do a better job.

Would you do it?

TamerB Sun 02-Feb-14 17:33:47

I wish we could all just recognise that there is no single approach that suits every child. We all do what's best for our own.

And so say all of us! (I don't think anyone could argue with that).

streakybacon Sun 02-Feb-14 17:14:07

Which just goes to show that all children are different, circumstances are different, families are different- but everybody learns best when they are happy

This.

I wish we could all just recognise that there is no single approach that suits every child. We all do what's best for our own.

cory Sun 02-Feb-14 16:55:23

Bizarrely, my dd is learning far from more from me now that she is back in full time education: she was unhappy at home and it made her very negative about her chances to learn anything at all; it certainly damaged to her willingness to learn from me.

Which just goes to show that all children are different, circumstances are different, families are different- but everybody learns best when they are happy.

HamletsSister Sun 02-Feb-14 15:48:43

But at school, I teach my children one subject (core, important) and yet today, at home, I was teaching my son Latin - a subject not available at school but one he decided to follow in his own time.

So, I am doing both. Really HE brigade.....we ALL teach our children. I am particularly proud of the fact that my Sciottish children both say "bloody hell" in a posh English accent (mine) - they definitely didn't learn that at school!

TamerB Sun 02-Feb-14 09:12:57

I expect my brother would have suited HE, it wouldn't have been an excuse for my parents to then extend it to the whole family regardless, when school suited us.

TamerB Sun 02-Feb-14 09:11:18

An obvious candidate for HE. One system can never suit all. Some are not suited by schools and some are not suited by HE.

streakybacon Sun 02-Feb-14 08:18:54

When my son was at school, he would come home each day a gibbering wreck, completely incapable of any after-school activities. School destroyed him. It simply wasn't possible to 'do other stuff' outside of school hours and he really only gets 24 hours in his day now because of HE.

TamerB Sun 02-Feb-14 07:30:39

I think that the argument has taken a rather silly turn as if we are scoring points as to who does more with their children!
They are learning. Some totally at home, some go out for a few hours each day. As long as people are happy with their choice I can't see why we need to nit pick over terms.
I see it in a similar way to LifeIsForLiving.

whitefonia Sun 02-Feb-14 01:57:52

"I have no desire to be a 'formal' full time home educator - you mention that you set a curriculum, make lesson plans, mark work. I can't think of many things i'd rather do less tbh."

Like many home educators, then (thinking of unschoolers who I greatly admire).

Oh, I used 'formally' with reference to the LA, meaning officially, which could be applied to all types of home educator (We wouldn't describe our educational provision as 'formal' but structured. Even then it doesn't resemble a school).

whitefonia Sun 02-Feb-14 01:50:08

"They get all of that plus they get the additional chance to expand their learning at home in whatever way they wish, with no curriculum, plans or marking taking up my time."

This takes up my time only (usually late evening), it doesn't take up any of the children's time whatsoever. Obviously you don't know me or how HE has worked for us, but thank you for guessing.

whitefonia Sun 02-Feb-14 01:46:46

"I take exception to the underlying tone from some home educators like yourself, that only those children who do not go to school get the chance to follow their interests, expand their knowledge and learn things outside of the nc."

I haven't said anything of the kind. Not even remotely. Please point out where.

whitefonia Sun 02-Feb-14 01:45:29

I was thinking the same about you, with regard to chips on shoulders, Lifeisfortheliving...

My children go to school. I also teach them at home.

Like every parent in the country, then (including all types of home educator). So probably needless to say, no? Certainly nothing out of the ordinary.

"For you to say that schools are solely responsible for educating my children for me is not only incorrect but ridiculous."

Though it may suit, please don't put words into my mouth. I mentioned 'bulk of' and 'school full time' I also agreed that most parents 'teach' outside of full time school (and outside of whichever 'method' of home ed. they use).

"I see school as an extra positive for my children. They get all the benefits of attending - educational, socialising with others on a daily basis, learning to follow rules and read social cues, gaining independence from the family unit and taking part in large team activities, plays, productions, class trips."

Same as home education hmm

LifeIsForTheLiving Sun 02-Feb-14 00:30:52

Whitefonia you sound like you have a massive chip on your shoulder to be frank. You take exception to me using the words 'home educate', so i'll replace them with 'teach'.

My children go to school. I also teach them at home.

I have no desire to be a 'formal' full time home educator - you mention that you set a curriculum, make lesson plans, mark work. I can't think of many things i'd rather do less tbh.

I take exception to the underlying tone from some home educators like yourself, that only those children who do not go to school get the chance to follow their interests, expand their knowledge and learn things outside of the nc.

That is not the case. I see school as an extra positive for my children. They get all the benefits of attending - educational, socialising with others on a daily basis, learning to follow rules and read social cues, gaining independence from the family unit and taking part in large team activities, plays, productions, class trips.

They get all of that plus they get the additional chance to expand their learning at home in whatever way they wish, with no curriculum, plans or marking taking up my time.

I agree with what a pp said...the school do not educate my dc for me, they educate them with me. A huge difference.

My dc attend school for 32 hours a week. They spend the other 136 hours of that week at home. For you to say that schools are solely responsible for educating my children for me is not only incorrect but ridiculous.

cory Sat 01-Feb-14 23:49:57

I don't see why you have to have this complete distinction between the Important Stuff and Other Stuff.

I learnt French at school and English at home. Does that make French more important than English?
(for the record, I speak English rather better than French, but then my mother was a pretty inspiring teacher)

My db learnt science at school but music (in preparation for his application to the conservatoire) at home.

As far as I am concerned, school and I have taught dd to read between us. We have introduced her to literature and helped her to understand it between us. (In all honesty, our home library probably is probably better stocked than her secondary school library was, but they complemented each other)

Ds watches news programmes at home with us and then goes into school and discusses what he has seen in history and geography classes.

I have always thought of it as team work.

whitefonia Sat 01-Feb-14 23:33:56

Again, the extra curricular teaching, you say (or whoever said it) makes you a home educator is true of almost every parent in the country. Including home educators (formal, classical, autonomous, radical unschoolers). It doesn't make you a home educator.

If you teach your children in an institution (to poster who mentioned) you're not strictly a home educator either grin

Mishmashfamily Sat 01-Feb-14 23:31:24

No I agree , parents do teach their dc things at home, they just get sent to some one else to learn the important stuff. Otherwise they would be full time home educators. Which they are not.

Most parents will read and do some spelling with their dc at home but full time H Edding is totally different.

LittleBearPad Sat 01-Feb-14 23:18:29

But you did say we couldn't be considered home educators by the LEA. Which of us has said we want to be. But we do teach our children.

whitefonia Sat 01-Feb-14 23:17:12

Who's suggesting that? I certainly haven't. How ridiculous.

HamletsSister Sat 01-Feb-14 23:16:47

My children DO go to a school but I am their teacher. I do all of the things listed in school, plus doing all the other things listed at home.

Do I win?

Of course we all educate our children. The HEd brigade seem to think they have a monopoly on that

TamerB Sat 01-Feb-14 23:16:19

Exactly LittleBear! I do the fun bits and let someone else teach apostrophes etc!

TamerB Sat 01-Feb-14 23:13:14

I wouldn't dare go on the HE board and suggest that parents should curriculum plan, lesson plan and mark work- my skin isn't thick enough!

whitefonia Sat 01-Feb-14 23:09:36

*Up thread

whitefonia Sat 01-Feb-14 23:08:59

I don't think we were discussing that, though. So not sure what point is proved. I haven't lumped schools together, or claimed there is only one way to HE.

I took exception to somebody using a school full time describing themselves as a home educator.

LittleBearPad Sat 01-Feb-14 23:07:59

I'm not sure Tamer wants to be a formal home educator, why would she. She and her children seem to have a great time. Plus she doesn't gave to lesson plan, mark work or organise exams. Win, win.

TamerB Sat 01-Feb-14 23:07:57

I doubt there are many 'formal' home educators. Why on earth would the LEA recognise me as a formal educator when they go to school? confused
I have educated them since the day they were born, we have not sat down with work books but it is quite clear, as adults, that they have absorbed an enormous amount.

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