To think old drivers are more dangerous than young ones?

(83 Posts)
PistolAnnies Wed 22-Jan-14 16:15:35

An old dear almost crashed right into me before, clearly didn't see, even when I had to swiftly swerve to get out of her way, and she was squinting her eyes trying to see blush

I see this more with old drivers and think they should have to surrender their license, if at a certain age, their eyesight and health are not in the best condition angry

MrsOakenshield Wed 22-Jan-14 16:47:11

FIL is awful, and the fact that he drives a massive 4x4 makes him even more dangerous, and he does a lot of driving. Can't believe that he's never been in an accident. I won't get into the car with him with DD, but he drives his DP's grandchildren round a lot shock. Rarely driven by MIL but her DH is unbelievably slow, I don't know if dangerously slow though. My mum doesn't drive much but she did manage to write off BIL's car a few years ago by crashing straight into it "I panicked and hit the accelerated not the brake" okaaaaaaaaaaaay!

so, on that measure YANBU. I would change the lot of them a massive load of insurance.

My auntie's not bad <balanced>.

Nanny0gg Wed 22-Jan-14 16:53:43

The plural of anecdote is not data.

grin

Nanny0gg Wed 22-Jan-14 16:55:15

Seriously - define 'old'.

60s? 70s? 80s?

Who?

tripecity Wed 22-Jan-14 16:56:56

some old twat was driving at 20 mph today in front of me and stopping for about a minute at junctions where there was no traffic and giving way to the left and the right on roundabouts and it gave me the absolute rage.

That's why they cause accidents, they infuriate other drivers

ComposHat Wed 22-Jan-14 16:57:24

I think as drivrrs get over a certain age the insurance premiums start to rise to reflect the risk they pose.

I would like to see for new drivers: something along the lines of highher penalty points for speeding,, restricted driving hours, ongoing trsoning and mandatory p plates for the first two years after passing their test.

For older drivers: annual physical/mental capacity check post 70 at their GP, plus a short driving fitness test every 5 years with a registered examiner (emergency stop, slow speed control etc.)

MrsOakenshield Wed 22-Jan-14 16:57:49

anyone wearing purple? grin

NewtRipley Wed 22-Jan-14 16:59:29

old twat

old dear

tripecity

Some silly bitch did that to me the other week. Women, eh?

If you get infuriated and can't contain it, then maybe you need to think about whether you are safe on the road?

MrsOakenshield Wed 22-Jan-14 16:59:58

I think FIL would pass your test, Compos so he'd still be on the streets. He just drives along, pointing things out so veering around, unexpectedly slowing down, that kind of thing. In a test he'd be fine because he's not showing where so-and-so who taught DH in infant school is now living or whatever.

NCISaddict Wed 22-Jan-14 17:00:38

Totally anecdotal grin but the RTC's I have attended that have resulted in fairly serious injuries have, without exception, been the result of younger drivers actions whilst the minor injury ones have been older drivers, possibly because the younger drivers tend to drive faster and be less cautious?
Obviously this does not prove anything and sweeping generalisations are not appropriate.
So yes, UABU

etoo Wed 22-Jan-14 17:03:25

I would like to see for new drivers: ... restricted driving hours,...

What hours though? Might make it awkward for them to get to their zero-hour contract jobs at random hours of the day/night.

In an ideal world it would be good if rush hour driving was restricted to people with jobs or had some other legitimate reason for driving at those times, would help a lot with congestion. Totally unworkable in reality but I can dream...

bodygoingsouth Wed 22-Jan-14 17:08:50

lucille so 'they' both speed dangerously past schools and also plod along slowly.

ooookkkaaayyy.

what a ridiculous term .'old dear' is! what do you mean op? are all older women dears? what do you mean?

CPtart Wed 22-Jan-14 17:09:18

My 86 year old grandmother is still driving. In the past few months she has pranged two stationary cars on separate occasions and wasn't even aware she had done so until the police came knocking!

ComposHat Wed 22-Jan-14 17:10:42

Those were just ideas off the top of my head. But I thinkIit is absurd that you ger your licence at 17/18 and then are left to your own devices.

At the other end of the age spectrum, possesion of a piece of paper that says you were able to drive 50 yearsago Iis taken as all the proof needed that you are still capable of handling a piece of lethal machinery.
I think rather more thought is needed on how people begin and end their driving lives.

SlowlorisIncognito Wed 22-Jan-14 17:11:08

I do agree with this to an extent. Don't forget new drivers are limited to getting 6 points on their licence before they lose it for the first two years after they pass, so there are some restrictions on them already. They're also massively financially penalised by their insurance if they have an accident.

However, I think lots of people of all ages drive dangerously. Part of this is that the roads have changed a lot since many people learnt to drive, and they have not kept up to date with changing traffic laws. There is part of me that thinks that anyone who hasn't taken a theory test should do so, as I know several people in their 50s/60s who admit they probably don't know enough to pass one. Surely if this knowledge is required of young people to drive on the road, then older people should know it too? This would make people more aware of things like stopping distances.

I also think traffic laws in general should be policed better.

I agree that older drivers are dangerous for different reasons. I think they can behave unpredictably due to their age or lack of knowledge, which is dangerous, and if they can't see properly this is a major issue. I also know two older people who have been told by the police they shouldn't be driving any more who continue to drive. I think the police should have more powers to seize people's licences.

SamU2 Wed 22-Jan-14 17:11:27

Composhat I just passed my test three months ago. I am 32 years old. I wouldn't be able to do my job if we had restricted hours or pick my kids up at night.

Also, if you get 6 points in two years you lose your license and have to re-sit your test. I think that is harsh enough.

I used to think these ideas were good and started a thread about it once myself but thinking it through it is really a crap idea.

I think it would be pretty shitty for me to lose my job because I of some driving time restrictions. I am as safe as driver as everyone else, probably safer than a lot of people .

Mouthfulofquiz Wed 22-Jan-14 17:14:16

I find that the most dangerous drivers tend to be elderly but I think it's because of where I most commonly drive - I work near a large hospital so you just learn to make allowances and accept that these drivers might be upset, stressed, lost etc etc. I have learnt to anticipate the risks a bit more. I used to get very frustrated with people but on undertaking some reflection I realised it was pointless and a bit wrong really.
When I lived rurally, I found that those who most often overtook at dangerous places were young...
I was probably a bad driver when I first had my son as I was tired, full of hormones, anxious if he was crying etc.
No-one is perfect :-)

LucilleBluth Wed 22-Jan-14 17:26:29

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Motherinlawsdung Wed 22-Jan-14 17:26:30

Well if we're doing ridiculous generalisations I would like to point out that the person who recently smashed into my car was a seventeen-year-old.

NewtRipley Wed 22-Jan-14 17:29:08

Lucille

There is more than one unpredictable older driver

SamU2 Wed 22-Jan-14 17:29:33

The person who drove into me was in his early 20's.

Bloody man didn't look before pulling out of a junction and pulled right out on me. He was going right so he ended up with more damage but 5 weeks later and I still don't have my car back angry

Oblomov Wed 22-Jan-14 17:35:35

I do think that there should be a re-test/ check up at a certain age , say 70.

AuntieStella Wed 22-Jan-14 17:39:51

It's already the law that people with disqualifying health conditions or eyesight must surrender their licence. And that's not necessarily age related, and is binding on everyone young or old.

The nearest thing to evidence about age groups and safety comes from the insurance industry, whose profitability depends on correct assessment of accident data.

The highest premiums are for young drivers, not old ones.

drudgetrudy Wed 22-Jan-14 17:41:32

YABU, Fuck off. From an "old dear" (silly girl)

LucilleBluth Wed 22-Jan-14 17:43:34

Not grasping the concept of there being more than one driver in my anecdote and being totally condescending about it is worse than my grammar mistake.

specialsubject Wed 22-Jan-14 17:47:54

the silly bitch who nearly wrote me off the other day while looking at her damn i-phone and driving at the same time was certainly not an OAP.

hope she hits a tree soon.

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