Ripping live animals apart is a wonderful British tradition that should be preseved.

(333 Posts)
ItsAWonderfulCervix Thu 26-Dec-13 13:05:03

Let's overturn the ban. After all boxing day just isn't any fun without a few dead foxes and blood and guts and stuff.

And while we're at it, don't you just love a bit of badger baiting for variety When shredding foxes gets dull.

catgirl1976 Thu 26-Dec-13 13:06:40

I expect DSis has gone hunting today angry

NigellasDealer Thu 26-Dec-13 13:07:44

if you could propose the discussion in a more measured and rational way I might be interested.
But as you already sound hysterical in your OP I do not think that attempting to initiate any kind of reasonable debate with you would be worthwhile.
Have a nice day, must rush i am off to the meet.
tuuuu-ruuuu

NoComet Thu 26-Dec-13 13:09:47

I like cheap farm gate eggs more than I like foxes.

Thants Thu 26-Dec-13 13:16:33

Is Boxing Day for hunting? Horrific

BohemianGirl Thu 26-Dec-13 13:16:41

Foxes shit in my garden and tip over my bins. I sincerely wish I could poison the fuckers - however that would harm cats and other animals in the area. Skanky, mangy, flea ridden diseased fuckers.

TidyDancer Thu 26-Dec-13 13:18:52

How is the OP hysterical?

I have never understood why anyone would enjoy hunting of any kind.

NigellasDealer Thu 26-Dec-13 13:19:14

i will tell you what is horrific and that is factory farmed turkeys.

delilahlilah Thu 26-Dec-13 13:19:24

What Nigellasdealer said I'm afraid. To disagree with something you need to get your facts straight rather than a hysterical, factually incorrect thread.

NigellasDealer Thu 26-Dec-13 13:20:43

she sounds hysterical in her choice of words and in that she has attempted to open a 'debate' using loaded imagery and vocabulary that makes her 'stance' very clear.

olidusUrsus Thu 26-Dec-13 13:21:38

It was a little, um, provocative. But we're already into the factory farmed meat fallacy so I don't think it was ever going to be a reasoned discussion from either side...

pippitysqueakity Thu 26-Dec-13 13:22:01

being cross with foxes for being vermin, does not necessarily mean the next step is pro hunting, surely?

WorraLiberty Thu 26-Dec-13 13:22:05

Culling is absolutely necessary for many reasons and should be done as humanely as possible. I think most people get that.

What many people don't get is the minds of those who delight in it, all the thigh rubbing and back slapping etc.

The death of any animal is hardly a cause for celebration...well not to most decent people anyway.

NewYearsHeave Thu 26-Dec-13 13:22:43

I'm interested in your knowledge of rural affairs, animal husbandry and other issues around the subject of hunting. If you have that, I'm interested in the debate. If not, then I'm not.

NigellasDealer Thu 26-Dec-13 13:23:52

damn i really wasn't going to get into this one!!
really must go, have to go and get my car started.
I do wish my daughter could have gone to the meet today.
btw in the lanes round here you often see shot badgers that the farmers have killed and then artfully arranged by the side of the road to make their deaths look accidental.
that is because there are too many of them and they bite the heads off lambs.

delilahlilah Thu 26-Dec-13 13:24:10

Tidy - enjoyment is not relevant. The purpose of it is the salient point. There are too many foxes - hence the scrawny, starved ones in city centres. The foxes entering houses are the result of this. They also ruin livelihoods, hunting is used to cull them. A hunted Fox is not usually ripped apart, Antis like to use the image to provoke hysterical outrage. People economists facts are more measured in their disagreement, as a rule.

TidyDancer Thu 26-Dec-13 13:24:26

That's not hysterical to me. Nothing the OP has said is untrue or even exaggerated.

This is a subject auto agenda driven for different reasons to have any kind of sensible debate. People who are upset and anti-fox hunting will be called names and made fun of and belittled, and those who like hunting will defend it to the bitter end because they enjoy those kind of things.

NigellasDealer Thu 26-Dec-13 13:25:03

the thigh rubbing and back slapping
have never noticed anyone rubbing their thighs at a hunt.

fishybits Thu 26-Dec-13 13:25:05

Personally I much prefer it when farmers shoot and injure perfectly healthy foxes which then take days to die. Far better to do that then to remove the old and ill foxes who are more likely to prey on livestock.

TidyDancer Thu 26-Dec-13 13:25:42

too agenda driven....iPad issues.

delilahlilah Thu 26-Dec-13 13:26:08

Economists? Wtf? People who are aware of the facts

olidusUrsus Thu 26-Dec-13 13:29:13

Yy Tidy. Unfortunately this debate is one that never seems to progress.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe Thu 26-Dec-13 13:29:44

What Worra said; this is not about culling but is all about bloodthirst and thigh-rubbing (how I love that phrase!).

Animals are culled as a matter of course; nobody seems to chase any other type of animal around the countryside to achieve that. It's outdated and ridiculous.

Nigella - aren't they waiting for you by now? You said you were going...?

WorraLiberty Thu 26-Dec-13 13:30:02

have never noticed anyone rubbing their thighs at a hunt.

Which is neither here nor there really is it?

The reason they're at the hunt in the first place is because they're there to celebrate the death of an animal, and get the 'thrill' the hunt provides them with.

Maybe they should ask themselves why death makes them so excited?

pinkyredrose Thu 26-Dec-13 13:34:32

Fox hunting doesn't involve 'live animals being ripped apart' . If you knew anything about it you'd know that.

Plus foxes not being killed by hunting doesn't save foxes. They will still be culled, did you know that?

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