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really irritated by this comment and to think if your happy to eat meat you have to accept someone killed it!!!!

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We're farmers, we raise and send for meat cows and lambs. We also raise and slaughter for our personal use pigs, chickens and rabbits. All our animals are very well cared for, free range and killed humanely. Dh will also shoot pheasant and pigeon for food.
Friend has told me she no longer wants to be friends with me as she disagrees with our way of life. She disagrees with shooting and raising pets (I presume our rabbits) for food. Seems to have launched a facebook campaign against shooting, which isaimed at farmers in general.
I'm most confused. She eats meat, happily buys it from supermarket where I can guarantee most of it will not have enjoyed the lifestyle ours have. I think the shooting is one of her main problems, is this so different from slaughter, surely its better than an animal being caged all its life only to end up in tesco. I genuinely don't get it? We don't kill for sport, we have huge respect forall our animals and the enviroment. We live virtually completely self sufficiently. What are we doingthat is so wrong?

TEEARDIS Sat 23-Nov-13 10:32:17

You're doing nothing wrong. Your friend is an idiot.

You might want to enquire if she's a vegetarian now and if not how she is planning eating meat the no one has killed.

ZenNudist Sat 23-Nov-13 10:32:49

Nothing. Your ex-f sounds like a hypocritical loon. Avoid her and post some stuff on her wall about inhumane treatment of animals slaughtered for supermarket meat.

Fwiw I'd love to afford farm reared meat humanely reared and slaughtered. Tastes much better generally.

GaryTheTankEngine Sat 23-Nov-13 10:33:09

She sounds like she hasn't thought this through properly tbh. grin

I am on your side - I like to know where my meat and eggs come from, and know they have a happy life. As for the shooting, it's a pretty painless way to go after a life of relative pheasant freedom in my opinion.

Pennyacrossthehall Sat 23-Nov-13 10:33:33

You are definitely not doing anything wrong.

People are both extremely squeamish and have been taught to anthropomorphise animals- which leads to the nonsensical contradictory behaviour you are describing: they'll eat meat in neatly packaged ready meals, but can't relate that to the death of an animal.

Purple2012 Sat 23-Nov-13 10:33:43

You are not doing anything wrong. I think your friend sounds awful. I was a vegetarian for 25 years, recently started eating chicken for a healthier diet but I would never have dropped a friend because of that. Each to their own.

Beastofburden Sat 23-Nov-13 10:35:31

Your friend is behaving like a baby and pretending that meat grows painlessly on trees. she probably buys cheap clothes made with child labour as well.

You on the other hand are taking mature responsibility for the meat that you eat. We only buy from butchers who get their meat from people like you.

JaxTellerIsAllMine Sat 23-Nov-13 10:35:46

your friend isnt really a friend. You live your life and let her live hers. I know who I would rather have as a friend, and it isnt the supermarket lady. wink

Your friend is, quite frankly, an idiot. I am ex military and often get shock looks when I speak about killing chickens/rabbits whilst on survival training. We were taught how to do it humanely, what's the problem. If I hadnt been doing that I'd have been eating an animal slaughtered by someone else, and probably in less salubrious circumstances. Where do people think meat comes fromhmm

wherethewildthingis Sat 23-Nov-13 10:36:40

I am a veggie and I agree with you! I have no issue with the type of meat you produce, it's the bloodless, shrink wrapped, supermarket stuff that bothers me. It allows people who eat it to live in denial that what they are eating was alive, and often treated very badly. YANBU.

Beastofburden Sat 23-Nov-13 10:36:57

Zen, we manage the cost of humane meat by eating it less often. We all (as a country) eat far too much meat anyway smile

neunundneunzigluftballons Sat 23-Nov-13 10:37:12

What are you doing that is so wrong.......... In her eyes or in mine? In mine nothing but she obviously has some strong opinions that you cannot live by. I think she is very heavy handed but unlike the majority Mumsnet I think it is fine to have the courage of your convictions and to make judgements on that basis. You have to move on without her if she refuses to see your perspective but again IMO you are doing nothing wrong.

Your friend sounds like an ignorant twat, you're doing nothing wrong & are well rid of her.

tracypenisbeaker Sat 23-Nov-13 10:37:28

She sounds like an immature, fickle arsehole.

On a different note, your life sounds idyllic and I'm jealous.

mrscog Sat 23-Nov-13 10:37:29

Your friend is being a hypocrite, if she'd also become vegetarian then even though I think she was being a bit extreme it might be understandable but if she's still eating supermarket meat then no!

Preciousbane Sat 23-Nov-13 10:37:34

Your mate is as daft as a brush, I will happily be your mate and come round for free range dinner.

Some people disengage their brains when buying meat in a supermarket because it bears no resemblance to an animal.

I remember telling SIL we had rabbit for dinner you would have thought I had said I had eaten a human baby. She is not a vegetarian.

I think your ex mate is showing ridiculous hypocrisy over this.

I'm not in favour of Facebook feuds but you must post calling her a hypocrite

Your way is clearly better than the average slaughterhouse providing you are a good shot

My dh is veggie and he thinks your mate is a hypocritical twat

qazxc Sat 23-Nov-13 10:41:32

YANBU I come from a country/hunting background and whilst i'm uncomfortable with "sport" hunting (eg safari type hunting), hunting for food is perfectly acceptable IMO.

Dawndonnaagain Sat 23-Nov-13 10:43:56

Your friend sounds like a ten year old with their fingers in their eyes yelling "I'm not listening!".
You're doing nothing wrong, and my veggie ds also says your friend is a hypocrite!

PS. Stick me on the guest list too, please!

Neunund - I've no problem if people stand by convictions, I do have issues with those who openly criticise me but their actions contradict all that they say. She'll eat meat, most the time having no idea how it's reared but criticises usfor raising and killing animals.
I've no issue with people who disagree with this and would happily debate it etc, but would expect them to stand by their views by being vegetarian or offering another alternative. We as a nation are so detached from where our food comes from!

MintyChops Sat 23-Nov-13 10:46:33

She is being very very silly and hypocritical. Bon appetit and you are better off without her a friend.

KrabbyPatty Sat 23-Nov-13 10:47:26

Your friend is a complete idiot.

Manchesterhistorygirl Sat 23-Nov-13 10:47:27

Your friend is a bloody idiot.

readysteady Sat 23-Nov-13 10:49:46

What an idiot, her loss not yours I personally totally have no problem with you for raising and eating your own animals. I would happily be mates with you despite the fact I am a life long 2nd generation vegetarian. It's people that go oh I don't think about it when it's wrapped in cling film that get me! I would respect you more and praise you for your high welfare standards. Silly mare

IHadADreamThatWasNotAllADream Sat 23-Nov-13 10:55:39

The appropriate response is "what a coincidence! I was just about to defriend you because you're a twat". Having vegetarian principles is fine, but this is just bollocks.

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