AIBU in thinking this bed time is too late?

[Snoozybird]

My DH's two youngest kids have both just turned 10 and 12 respectively. They are currently only just getting ready for bed, I know it's not a school night but I think it's too late (it's like this every weekend, they haven't stayed up for a special occasion). On school nights bedtime is technically 10.00pm but by the time they have faffed with teeth/being tucked up it's usually 10.15ish.

AIBU to think this is too late? DH says that when he was a child he didn't need much sleep so he doesn't want to force the kids to go to bed earlier, personally I would like some adult time and think it's about boundaries as much as anything...or am I being too harsh?

[Canthaveitall]

YANBU.

[AgentZigzag]

IMO it is, but then what do I know?

I would say 10 is pretty late for a school day as well.

DD1 (13) has just gone to bed, but she's been out at something that's been planned for yonks, and she's definitely totally nackered.

I agree with you about having an evening as well.

[JeanSeberg]

How often do they stay with you?

[gobbin]

Waaaay too late.
I would say 8.30 upstairs for a 9.00/9.30 lights out during the week, maybe just an hour later on a Friday/Saturday.

[AgentZigzag]

at tucking them in for the night.

[Snatchoo]

YANBU if it's for having some time with DH - but if they're not tired and grouchy all weekend surely it's not actually a problem?

[Joysmum]

My 11 year old goes to bed at 9pm and the bedtime increases by 15 mins every birthday but reevaluated if she can't get up in the morning or starts waking up regularly way before she needs to

Weekends are mostly still 9pm but with the occasion very very late night if hubby is working away so we have a film fest and 'camp' on the sofa overnight.

The important thing is that she is able to get up in the morning without difficulty or being too tired during the day.

[BowTieAndStraitjacket]

Way too late. DS is 8 and is in bed by 8 every night including weekends. By 10 it will probably be 8.30/9. By 12 it will be 9/9.30 at the very latest.

[MiniMonty]

LOL - choose between a bedtime they love or academic success.
DS14 is in bed at nine, lights out at 9:30.
No mucking about.

You're not their best friend - you are the PARENT.
No Brainer.

[Ericaequites]

When I started American high school at 14, I was allowed to set my own bedtime. After a couple of very sleepy mornings, I went to bed at a reasonable hour. Before that, it was lights out at 9-9:30 on school nights, and not much later on weekends.
Slumber parties are different, and oxymoronic. My parents let me host those in the famiky caravan with electric hookup and back door open at twelve or so. It's ideal, as the children are safe, but you can't hear all the rumpus.

[intitgrand]

why does it matter on a friday might ? Wrt to school nights i don t know we have only got half a story. It depends on what time they have to get up and their individual sleep requirement for example it is a well documented fact that very intelligent children need less sleep

[VioletStar]

Is that true Intitgrand? I thought the advice for kids that young was they do better academically with more sleep.
My two are 9 & 11 - school nights in bed by 8; teeth etc starts at 7.30 to allow for faffing. They read, but are generally asleep by 8.30 of their own accord. Weekends it's generally about an hour later but they pretty much self regulate. Still in bed by 9 though! (Unless doing something of course - any night). Not so stealthy boast: they couldn't be better academically

[butterfliesinmytummy]

Do they need more sleep than they are getting at the moment? My dd is 9 and goes to bed at 8.30 and reads for half an hour but she's often still awake at 10pm, laying in the dark. She's just someone who needs less sleep. I did mention it to the doc a while back and he said that as long as she's not sleepy during the day, she's getting enough sleep. You cannot say that every 9 year old needs 9 hours sleep for example as some need more and some less.

If the dcs are getting enough sleep, maybe you can suggest an "upstairs" time of 9pm for example when they disappear to read or potter quietly in their rooms?

[somersethouse]

That is the average time for a four year old here, in Spain! I am not joking about that.

YANBU, I think it is too late.

[MintyChops]

Much too late, will they be knackered today?

[Snatchoo]

Well my 12 year old DSS normally goes to bed at ten when he's here.

But that's not relevant is it because different children have different needs.

[TantrumsAndBalloons]

Every child needs a different amount of sleep, surely?

Dd is 15, she is normally in bed by 10pm during the week as is ds1 who is 14.
Weekends, she still goes to bed around the same time unless we/she is doing something in the evening.

Ds1 is often still downstairs when I go to bed at the weekend, he still gets up at 7.45am Saturday and Sunday for football, he has never suffered because of it.

But if dd went to bed at midnight, she would struggle all day to get up for drama on Saturday morning and would be pretty miserable all day.

I don't tell her to go to bed though, she knows how sleep she needs.

[Snatchoo]

Sorry posted too soon!

When I was at school I never went to sleep before 11 although I read for at least an hour. I got nothing below a B in the 10 GCSEs I took so don't think I did so badly.

[FraidyCat]

My 3.5 year old typically goes to sleep at roughly 9.30pm, though last night she was still awake at 10.30pm. That's assuming she's had her usual hour or two nap during the day, otherwise she's out like a light at 7pm.

She spends the later part of the evening playing/talking with mother and grandmother. Once she's asleep, in the same room they turn on bright light, loud radio/TV/ipad, chat loudly to each other, or relatives on Skype. She sleeps through all that.

I think she's getting enough sleep, as she would be grouchy if tired.

[VikingVagine]

We were telling 11 yo DS to be in bed by 9, light out at 9:30, which he'd do no problem. Systematically we'd hear him say night night when we went to bed at 11; he just couldn't get to sleep. Now he still has to go to bed at 9, so DH and I can have some time to ourselves, but he's allowed to read for as long as he likes. The result is that he is always asleep by 10.

[Snoozybird]

What triggered me last night was that DD (the 12yo) complained to DH at 9pm of feeling a bit under the weather. After a cuddle and some Calpol or whatever I thought maybe DH should suggest an early night, maybe sit with her in her room for a bit if need be? But no, it was nearly 11.30 by the time she was settled for bed.

When DH came to bed last night I asked how his DD was feeling and he said that she was ok, all the DC had been a bit headachey today and he expected they were overtired. I admit at this point I got into a bit of a strop

There are four DCs, we have them every Thu-Sun. The 12yo and 16yo are very hard to wake on a Friday morning and nearly always miss breakfast as a result (the 16yo will be in his room by 11pm but stays up playing ipad till 2am, I know this as he often wakes me up by clattering around getting ready to go to sleep). The 13yo is fine but he is more self-regulating and will often take himself upstairs before he has to. The 10yo will wake up at 5am if he goes to bed too "early" (e.g 9pm) so he stays up till 11pm but is tired the next day.

On a school day they need to get up around 7am.

[BsshBossh]

My parents based my bedtime on the time I naturally woke up. If I couldn't get up by 7am then they insisted I went to bed earlier. At 10 my bedtime was fixed at 8.30; at 12 it was 9pm (that's lights out, no more talking/calling/getting out of bed). Sounds good to me.

[puntasticusername]

YANBU. Your DH may well have been at the lower end of the sleep requirements spectrum at their age, but everyone's needs are different...

[Jinty64]

Ds3 (7) goes to bed at 9-930 on a school night and 930-10ish at the weekend. It's what he needs. He gets up between 6 and 7.

[Oodmaiden]

Well, the average 10 year old needs 9 3/4 hours sleep, while by 12 it falls to 9 1/4. So if they need to get up for school by 7, that means a bedtime of around 9:30pm. At the weekend, I would say an hour or so later, because they don't need to get up so early. So I would think 10-10:30pm is not unreasonable on Friday and Saturday nights.

nb. If this makes the non accompanied evening too short for you, there is nothing to stop you instigating a rule of needing to be ready for bed and engaged in quiet activities in their bedroom an hour before sleep time...