that a decorator should not ask

(91 Posts)
PTFO Thu 14-Nov-13 12:37:08

me to make his lunch for him then sit at the top of the stairs eating in?

Hes painting the bathroom. He asked if he could have his lunch- yes fine. He asked if I had a microwave- no I don't why do you ask? oh er could you just bung my spag bog in a pan and heat it through for me....er really its frozen solid. yes thanks...he then helped himself to a bowl and fork to add to my washing up. oh and he knew which cupboard had the bowls in straight away but he does appear to be washing said bowl up...

I might ask he lives five mins away...

fluffyraggies Sat 16-Nov-13 12:24:29

My dear Dad was a plumber and my DH is a builder. Tradesmen are fully aware of who are nice folk to work for and who aren't. It is remembered!

And by nice - i mean allowing them to use a tap to fill a bucket. An offer of a cupper every couple of hours if you're home. If not, to be allowed to boil the kettle for their flask. Perhaps to be allowed to use the loo. (In the case of my dad he would often be working right next to the loo anyway - in the case of my DH he is often too dirty to walk around the customers house) Or wash their hands before they eat their sarnies in the van.

A few years a go (B4 DH) i had a big loft conversion done. It took 7 tradesmen 14 weeks working 5/6 days from 8 till 4. The firm worked as a gang. I think i got through a lorry load of Tate&Lyle in those 14 weeks and made about a billion bacon sarnies. I was on first name, 'deep converstaion over the kitchen table' terms with each before the work was finished. Also they would each take turns to come down for a cupper and a bitch about all the others grin

I almost missed them when they left.

livinginwonderland Sat 16-Nov-13 11:45:47

Letting someone use your toilet and heat up their lunch on their break is hardly letting them use your entire house as they fancy hmm

TheHeadlessLadyofCannock Sat 16-Nov-13 10:51:05

Someone heating up their lunch is not using the 'whole house' 'as the trades person fancies'. Nor is it a 'tea party'. FFS.

Some of the attitudes on display on here are reprehensible. I always offer tea and biscuits and, while I wouldn't appreciate someone (anyone, tradesperson, midwife, Queen of England...) asking me to heat up their lunch, I don't think it would be beyond me to say 'I'm busy but here's how to use the hob and please feel free to use anything you need – here's the bowls cupboard, here's the cutlery, salt and pepper etc.'

EnlightenedOwl Sat 16-Nov-13 10:45:42

Wouldn't bother me - they're entitled to something to eat and drink during a working day

LimitedEditionLady Sat 16-Nov-13 09:22:57

In our area there arent enough tradesmen to pick and choose.So its a lot easier for them to be the selective ones.

LimitedEditionLady Sat 16-Nov-13 09:20:13

This really got as far as calling people sexist!

GuffSmuggler Sat 16-Nov-13 09:01:20

I know kerwhizzed it's not like you are inviting them around for a tea party! You are paying for their time!

I think offering a cup of tea and letting them to use your toilet is fair enough but cooking full english breakfasts!? Some of you are bonkers!!

KerwhizzedMyself Fri 15-Nov-13 19:05:11

Inhospitable? Aren't we paying for a service to be done and not paying for our whole house to be used as the trades person fancies? I didn't realise it was part of hiring someone to also let them use whatever they want during the process.

Mirage Fri 15-Nov-13 19:01:01

As a tradeswoman,I'm shocked at how some of the posters here view us.I can't believe how rude and inhospitable they are.Thank goodness none of my customers are like this!shock

Selvedge Fri 15-Nov-13 18:54:26

ICameOnTheJitney I would let the Nanny heat up their spag bol, but would wonder why as we all eat the same meals together in my house. I would, in fact, let the decorator heat up their coq au vin, or whatever, on subsequent days, but would assume that as this is not the convenient option that microwaving is, and armed with this knowledge, they would make other arrangements. I would not be happy that either trades were eating on the landing which is the pertinent point as Whatdoiknowanyway has grasped.
FYI my decorator is a woman and the nanny is a man, so who's the sexist one now?

sandfrog Fri 15-Nov-13 18:45:09

> Good tradesmen are in demand and can pick and choose clients. They aren't going to drop everything to help someone who is rude.

The customer gets to pick and choose as well. No-one is going to choose a tradesperson who is rude, they'll get another quote from someone else.

Thank you everyone for making this a really interesting and entertaining thread - for me anyway.
It is strange really how a tiny minority go to perhaps too much trouble - full english breakfasts, etc...
Most are very live and let live - help yourself - treat my house like you would your own - I am in that group.
Then there is that minority who don't want workers to touch anything in the house not relevant to the job.

My husband and many other professional workers will treat everyone as if they fall into the last group - so as not to offend.

It is well worth being in the other groups, as mentioned - when you do want a tradesman to come out at antisocial hours or for an emergency.
Good tradesmen are in demand and can pick and choose clients. They aren't going to drop everything to help someone who is rude.

ICameOnTheJitney Fri 15-Nov-13 06:54:18

Well maybe he felt unwelcome.....I agree not the best place to eat but OP should have invited him to use her table.

Whatdoiknowanyway Fri 15-Nov-13 06:49:25

I'd have no problem with heating the stuff up. The thing that would upset me would be eating it at the top of the stairs. No food outside of the kitchen in this house and certainly not hot food.

ICameOnTheJitney Fri 15-Nov-13 06:34:44

What about a Nanny Slevedge? Would you let your Nanny heat up her own spag bol on your stove? I bet you would. Both builder and nanny need to spend the day in your home....is it just that builders are men? Or that Nannies are a bit special?

shrunkenhead Fri 15-Nov-13 02:33:29

Some people seem really snobby about tradespeople! I have no idea why! As someone previously pointed out they'd let a midwife or doctor use the loo. I thought it was basic human kindness to let people use your toilet and to make them feel welcome with tea and biscuits. He only wanted to heat his dinner up. And prob ate it at top of stairs so as to not to be in your way. In my experience if you treat people well they do a good job, clean up after themselves etc so it's in everyone's interests to keep them sweet!

Selvedge Fri 15-Nov-13 02:00:26

There is surely some middle ground here. I would let a decorator heat their leftover spag bol on my hob (if I had no microwave) on the 1st day of a job, as well as show them the washing up facilities. I would expect them to bring something that didn't require heating on subsequent days. But there is NO WAY I would let said spag bol be eaten on the landing. They are presumably trying to get extra work painting over the tomato splatters.

fannyfireworks Fri 15-Nov-13 01:22:20

On everything not just that last post

Some people on here sound like horrible human beings.

fannyfireworks Fri 15-Nov-13 01:19:09

Totally right Worra

WorraLiberty Fri 15-Nov-13 00:26:22

I've got a genuine question for all those who are precious about their toilets.

What if a Midwife, Health Visitor or Doctor visiting your home asked to use the loo?

Would you rudely tell them to go elsewhere too?

ICameOnTheJitney Fri 15-Nov-13 00:22:52

Im surprised she lets them breathe her air.

WorraLiberty Thu 14-Nov-13 23:59:54

I'm not a very hyacinth person, but cleaning up a grown mans piss was just a step too far for me. <shudder>

Well your post certainly makes you come across that way.

'Hairy arsed' electrician or plumber?

Someone got piss on your loo seat once and now no tradesmen may use it?

Good lord...

ICameOnTheJitney Thu 14-Nov-13 23:48:54

Yes horribly rude! It's basic human decency to let people use the toilet or the sink....the cooker's just a step away from that and where's the issue? I think whoever said that some people have delusions of grandeur where tradespeople are concerned is right!

As for calling them "hairy arsed" Venus how on earth does the condition of their arse affect you? If it IS hairy, that doesn't mean they're LESS than you! So you work at home...big shits...so do I...that doesn't mean people can't go about their work around me and use the facilities!

livinginwonderland Thu 14-Nov-13 23:41:20

I can't believe people don't let builders or whatever use the bathroom. That's just despicably rude in my opinion. If someone is in your home and doing work for you, the least you can do is make them a cup of tea/coffee and let them use the facilities.

If someone told me I had to drive or walk off down the road to relieve myself when there was a functional bathroom right there, I'd be quite tempted to drive off and not come back, honestly.

If someone asked to heat up their lunch, I wouldn't mind either. I probably wouldn't do it for them but I'd show them how to use the hob and tell them to help themselves to cutlery/salt/ketchup etc.

VenusDeWillendorf Thu 14-Nov-13 23:00:06

Anyone I have working in my house, leaves at lunch time to sort themselves out. AND they aren't allowed to use the bathrooms - they can use their initiative.
I work from home and don't take lunch at lunch time- last thing I want is some hairy arsed electrician of plumber mooching around when I'm at work.

Most of the people who have done work for me arrive on time, and leave the place clean. I have carefully filleted the lists of trades people based on their general respectfulness, and cleanliness and if they are good time keepers. I assume they can do a good job.

We had one plumber who used all the clean laundered towels to mop up the leaks he caused by over draining the system!
An electrician who pissed on the loo seat and floor, and didn't clean it- after that no one is allowed to use the bathrooms. There are plenty of places around where they can go.
We live in a very lively town. If we were in the middle of nowhere, and there were no alternatives, I might think differently.

I leave glasses of water out on a tray so they can whet their whistles, but the kitchen is off limits.

I'm not a very hyacinth person, but cleaning up a grown mans piss was just a step too far for me. <shudder>

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