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To dig out my judgy-pants here?

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MakeHayIsAWhaleNow Wed 30-Oct-13 10:14:19

I do try not to judge, honest (at least out loud) but this really got my goat yesterday. We passed a car with a woman smoking in it and a toddler in the backseat. The car was stationary so she could have got out, as it was she had the window cracked about 4 inches so she could chuck out her fag ash but was making no effort to at least breathe out of the gap. Now, I'm not a fan of smoking in general, but each to their own as long as it's not near me or my children and I can even understand people who smoke and have children if they are making an effort to do it away from them - outside for example. But smoking in cars with a child in it? How hard is it to get out (yes, I know she could have had a hidden disability....but there was no blue badge that I could see, and even so....) or to wait until you have got home?

This has probably been done to death, but I don't care - I need to vent a bit. I've seen people driving and smoking with children in the car but never anyone stopped and could therefore be doing it outside. My little-used (honest) judgy pants are currently giving me a wedgie.....

Southeastdweller Wed 30-Oct-13 21:25:26

YADNBU. There's no excuse for this crap. Selfish cow.

letsgomaths Wed 30-Oct-13 21:22:09

Stationery/stationary: e for envelope, a for sitting on your arse.

I've just checked my dictionary, and it's definitely the right way around.

Whatdoiknowanyway, no that's not how you say it!

It's:
Stationary - station-airy (not moving)
Stationery - Station-ree (writing materials)

That's how I say it anyway, as does everyone I know. And we work with stationery.

RobinVanPrissy Wed 30-Oct-13 16:00:47

I smoke. Its a grim habit, no excuse for polluting kids with second hand smoke. I dont think smoker's should ever smoke around children.

Jolleigh Wed 30-Oct-13 16:00:26

My mum and nana both used to do this with me and/or my brother in the car. I used to tell them how sick it made me and they both decided I was just prone to car sickness. angry

I've nothing against smokers. I've not long since quit myself. But in a confined space with a child is extremely selfish.

LEMisafucker Wed 30-Oct-13 15:57:35

If i see a smoker i think they are foolish, if i see someone smoking around chilren, believe me i judge!

JessieMcJessie Wed 30-Oct-13 15:52:43

Crowler my Mum (who gave up smoking completely when I was in my teens) also denied that she ever smoked in the car! She denied it to my brother and me, even though we were there! She obviously felt so guilty as a result of health education campaigns that she blocked out what she has done.

I also have v clear memories of sitting with my parents in the smoking section of the plane, and being v happy when we were old enough to sit in the non- smoking section by ourselves.

I don't have any lasting health problems from it though.

MakeHayIsAWhaleNow Wed 30-Oct-13 14:14:23

I have been thoroughly educated thlgrin. Will never forget again!!!

Whatdoiknowanyway Wed 30-Oct-13 13:22:57

Stationary: a as in cAr
Stationery: e as in pEn

Can't believe I was nearly 50 before i learnt this rule smile

Handbagsonnhold Wed 30-Oct-13 13:22:25

Yanbu it's purely rank confused

I too am a disgusting black lunged, fowl breathed creature of the abyss (a smoker grin, but no, I never smoke around children. In a car or in a house. I don't get the need to smoke in the car in general.

You can either get out or wait until you stop. Seriously, stop every couple of hours for five minutes if you have to - you're supposed to in order to help concentrate on driving anyway, right?

It's people like this that make us smokers look even worse than we are. angry

I remember that stationery comes from a stationer. Then the rule also applies to confectionery (not -ary) which comes from a confectioner.

Smoking in cars with passengers isn't allowed if they're work vehicles (even if two smokers are travelling together) so I don't see why that couldn't be extended to private cars too.

My mum used to smoke in the car - both my parents did, but dad managed to give up smoking, so after that it was just mum. In fact, dad used to smoke his pipe in the car!

I absolutely hated it - it made me feel so ill - sick and headache-y - but when I finally plucked up the courage to ask mum not to smoke in the car, because it made me feel so grim, she refused. shockangry

MakeHayIsAWhaleNow Wed 30-Oct-13 12:14:02

3littlefrogs that's horrifying! And scary, I hope the mother/carer was exceedingly grateful.

MakeHayIsAWhaleNow Wed 30-Oct-13 12:12:44

Why thank you, Becca. I am a secret pedant, and not being able to spell something drives me a bit crackers....but now I have a way of remembering it!

OMFG I don't tend to judge pushchair pushers - if the child is facing away and has a hood down then effort has been made to protect them, so it doesn't really cross my radar.

3littlefrogs Wed 30-Oct-13 12:01:16

I once grabbed a small child almost out from under the wheels of a bus.
His mother/carer was so busy lighting her fag she wasn't bothering to hold his hand or watch him.
There is a certain type of person who puts their needs and wants above everyone and everything else.

Theodorous Wed 30-Oct-13 11:55:57

I agree, not judgey pants at all.
Beccagain, what a lovely post!

Crowler Wed 30-Oct-13 11:47:22

I judge the pushchair and smoking. So gross.

OMFGShockHorror Wed 30-Oct-13 11:22:29

Do you judge parents that smoke while walking and pushing a pushchair with toddler in it? I see that sometimes and usually they have the hood down or rain cover on so I don't judge.

I would judge anyone who smokes inside a car with kids in. YANBU.

fanjofarrow Wed 30-Oct-13 11:15:24

with, not as. Just realised how badly that post could be misread. grin Think I've been up too long on the night shift!

fanjofarrow Wed 30-Oct-13 11:13:26

... or anyone else's kids!

fanjofarrow Wed 30-Oct-13 11:12:38

MakeHay - I'm glad to see it's not just me, too!

Sorry if my last post sounded like I was trying to make it all about me, I genuinely didn't mean it that way. smile I just get a bit of The Rage about this. I'd never smoke in the same house or car as my kids, or nieces and nephews.

I think you are being entirely reasonable, and I share your sentiments.

Beccagain Wed 30-Oct-13 11:11:53

I just want to say thank you for caring about the correct spelling of stationary. You are a fine person and ipso facto cannot be unreasonable about anything (and especially not about smoking in cars)

flowers

MakeHayIsAWhaleNow Wed 30-Oct-13 11:02:58

I'm glad it's not just me (I didn't think I would be alone though!) - but I guess it would take a brave person to come and say that they didn't see the problem, and that surely it's fine!

Uncomfortable - definitely.

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