to sing "two little boys" to my DD

(53 Posts)

in the light of the revelations about Rolf Harris? After all no-one would sing Gary Glitters songs now, but I like the song (and she loves it)

FuckyNellItsHalloween Sun 20-Oct-13 18:48:55

No I wouldn't.

FortyDoorsToNowhere Sun 20-Oct-13 18:51:30

Most nursery rhymes have a bad meaning behind them.

I wouldn't sing it because I have never liked it.

ChippingInNeedsSleepAndCoffee Sun 20-Oct-13 18:53:36

It's a lovely song, I loved RH. If you are going to stop singing this, then you probably need to stop singing pretty much every other child's song there ever was!

Iamsparklyknickers Sun 20-Oct-13 18:54:15

There are other versions, it was around years before RH.

It'll have connotations for our generation but I doubt your DD will ever really take much of an interest - it'll be history to her. Although maybe not one to sing in public though.

Caitlin17 Sun 20-Oct-13 18:54:29

Difficult one. Probably not, a shame as it's a lovely wee song.

Then again Wagner was a vile person (in a different way of course) and no one bans him.

There is also the sculptor Eric Gill who was utterly vile and his work is still on public display on all sorts of public buildings including churches.

If you haven't heard of him, Google him, but be warned, he was a nasty piece of work.

ilovesooty Sun 20-Oct-13 18:56:26

He hasn't actually been convicted yet has he?

I would continue singing it if you like- your daughter will only associate the song with you, not anyone who's performed it.

JaneFonda Sun 20-Oct-13 18:57:31

I'm curious - what are the bad connotations? I know about RH obviously, but is it just because he sang it, or is there something in the song that I'm missing?

MalcolmTuckersMistress Sun 20-Oct-13 18:57:52

He's not been found guilty of anything yet! Blimey.

MetellaEstMater Sun 20-Oct-13 18:59:08

Pretty sure he has pleaded not guilty and the trial isn't until next year...

ilovesooty Sun 20-Oct-13 18:59:42

It's a good thing Lewis Carroll isn't around today or no one would be allowed to read Alice in Wonderland either.

ilovesooty Sun 20-Oct-13 19:00:32

He's pleaded not guilty and the trial isn't till April.

BurlyShassey Sun 20-Oct-13 19:01:55

Know what you mean, DC and I do a lot of arts and crafts and I always used to say ''can you tell what it is yet?'' in my RH voice, and now I just feel uncomfortable about it sad

also I love the gg xmas song, its on complitaion cd I have and never know wether to play it or not.

no answer for you, op, just empathising!

Alisvolatpropiis Sun 20-Oct-13 19:02:29

Oh for gods sake.

No there is nothing wrong with singing the song to her. She'll associate it with you regardless of whether RH is eventually convicted or not.

Fairly sure people still listen to Gary Glitter as well. May well not actually purchase his music but he was around for a long time before it came to light he is a paedophile. His music is likely to be lurking in many a music collection.

Iamsparklyknickers Sun 20-Oct-13 19:03:11

I would say the connotations lie purely with the fact RH sang it and it's so widely associated with him. In fairness I can only imagine it sang with an aussie accent so would be looking for other versions to help iron that out in my case.

The song itself is lovely - it's just anyone above 20 will probably always make that connection and do a bit of hmm'ing when they hear it.

ChippingInNeedsSleepAndCoffee Sun 20-Oct-13 19:07:45

It was written 28 years before RH was even born.

Stop hanging the man before his trial would you?!

SirChenjin Sun 20-Oct-13 19:10:27

My DM used to sing this to my DS and I when we were little - I have very fond memories of us sitting on her knee listening to this song. Even the RH associations can't spoil it for me, so I wouldn't even give that a second thought.

DaleyBump Sun 20-Oct-13 19:17:35

I had the same concerns as you, OP. My mum used to sing it to me and I sing it to my bump (silly, I know) but I figure that since it was around before RH sang it, it's not a problem.

Caitlin17 Sun 20-Oct-13 19:31:58

Re Lewis Carroll, I don't think he actually did anything. There is a photograph of Alice Liddell dressed as a beggar girl which doesn't really show much flesh but which with the benefit of hindsight looks a bit questionable now.

HopeS01 Sun 20-Oct-13 19:34:14

I love the song, and I'll sing it to my little boy. I wouldn't worry OP

MetellaEstMater Sun 20-Oct-13 19:34:32

Caitlin - check out the portrait by Carroll on his Wikipedia page. I'm actually surprised it is on there.

HopeS01 Sun 20-Oct-13 19:38:57

Metella I just had a look... hmm

Mymumsfurcoat Sun 20-Oct-13 19:40:00

I love the song, I would sing it to my DDs if they would let me. But the 2 year old much prefers The Welly Boot Song by Billy Connolly grin

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Sun 20-Oct-13 19:47:16

There's a good Guardian article about Lewis Carroll
http://gu.com/p/xv3jv
'He had impure thoughts, yes. What matters, in the end, is what he did with them."

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