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to think this analogy Gove makes is a bit hypocritical?

(109 Posts)
kim147 Sat 19-Oct-13 11:59:18

www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/oct/18/michael-gove-exam-grade-inflation

In the week we have seen 2 free schools fail (with unqualified teachers / heads in charge) and a young unqualified head of an academy quit, he comes out with this:

"Gove defended his decision to introduce more testing for pupils by drawing an analogy between two airlines. "Imagine that you had a choice not of schools, but of airlines. There is Test Airlines, very rigorous, and there is Warm and Fuzzy Airlines. What's the difference between the two? In Test Airlines they actually insist that the pilots have passed a test so that they can fly a plane. How old-fashioned can you get?

"At Warm and Fuzzy Airlines, they don't bother with these tests to see if pilots can fly. They just concentrate on all of the pilots giving the customers a warm and fuzzy feeling as soon as they get on board. Which would you fly with?"

I'd fly with an airline where they had people who knew about flying, had experience in it and were trained and observed in it - rather than an airline where some people had been in a plane, had read a few books on the theory and thought that they knew everything about being a pilot.

Talkinpeace Sun 20-Oct-13 16:08:26

Morgause
When he stops being Education Secretary he will run for Prime Minister.
Be careful what you wish for.

The only way that Gove makes sense is to realise that he isn't talking to you. If you aren't his intended audience then what he is saying sounds like poorly thought out rubbish. I'm sure that he is aware that it doesn't make sense and this analogy is one example of him talking rubbish aimed at his desired audience.

Similarly in the US he wasn't really aiming his speech at the audience in the room but at the British public via the British press who would cover it more than the US press.

soul2000 Sun 20-Oct-13 16:36:08

Talkinpeace. the Conservative party know Gove as leader would probably
lose 1 million votes. They may think he may attract 95% of the UKIP vote
but even UKIP voters have kids at school . I think it would be more likely
he would become Home secretary than leader... Think about that, he could
bring back "PUBLIC HANGINGS, FLOGGINGS, TRANSPORTATION, CHAIN GANGS" and be seen as an hero for stopping the decline in the standards
of punishment.

nennypops Sun 20-Oct-13 16:36:52

Gove is much more interested in his own career than in children's education. All of his initiatives are directed at what he thinks will play well with the electorate rather than at what will actually work. I'm just hoping that now that Labour has got rid of Twigg, who was as much use in opposition as a chocolate teapot, they might actually be able to show Gove up for the objectionable idiot that he is.

Talkinpeace Sun 20-Oct-13 16:38:51

soul2000 you just made me spit my coffee!

Then again the Police Commissioner I was talking to is all in favour of abolishing most short prison sentences as they do not work and are too expensive - he's all in favour of 'peer courts' and 'payback' schemes. Gove would have kittens.

BoneyBackJefferson Sun 20-Oct-13 16:40:29

"be seen as an hero for stopping the decline in the standards
of punishment."

Only if he could do it by moving the goalposts and playing with the numbers.

Morgause Sun 20-Oct-13 16:42:50

He always remind me of the unpopular creepy kid who used to crawl to the teachers and tell tales.

<shudders>

Talkinpeace Sun 20-Oct-13 16:44:51

Boney No, the badgers are still carrying the goalposts around with them

soul2000 Sun 20-Oct-13 17:16:59

HERE ARE SOME OF MICHEAL GOVE'S IDEAS

1. NEWGATE FREE PRISON.

2. THE DEBTORS PRISON BROUGHT TO YOU BY CENTRICA.

3. FLOGGING WITH DISTINCTION (MONITORED BY OFF FLOG)

4. ALL CONVICTS SENTENCED TO DEATH MUST COMPLETE 2000 HOURS
WORKING IN A CENTRICA CALL CENTER BEFORE HANGING.

ALL OF THIS TO BE MONITORED BY TEACHERS BECAUSE IT IS THE FAULT
OF TEACHERS THAT PEOPLE LEFT EDUCATION AND COMMITTED CRIME.

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