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to think this a major 'breakthrough' in the Ben Needham case?

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AliaTheEvilLeaper Fri 18-Oct-13 23:19:23

A 4 year old girl living in a Roma Camp has been found not related to the camp and parents.
Ben Needham's family apparently had a line of enquiry years back about being linked back to Larissa,
Which is where the area this girl was found.
If there's so many children out there with a chance of maybe being Ben or other stolen, shouldn't we be checking this out?
It's a possibility and a plausible one at that.
Girl found with no DNA matching to parents
http://www.enetenglish.gr/?i=news.en.home&id=1553
Lots of other children out there in those camps.No idea whether they're biologically related or not.
Is it not worth the enquiry? For the peace of mind?
It hasn't been investigated. It should be. Just to make SURE.
Especially as this little girl has been discovered in the exact same place as Ben was purpoted to have been.

Custardo Fri 18-Oct-13 23:20:07

theres another thread on it - jsut sayin

ICameOnTheJitney Fri 18-Oct-13 23:20:49

YABU and jumping to conclusions. That's a pretty big old country you're talking about and ONE blonde child in a gypsy camp does not mean Ben Needham was taken by them.

Salmotrutta Fri 18-Oct-13 23:23:36

What, exactly, hasn't been investigated?

I'm fairly sure they are investigating who this child is?

Or are you suggesting that Romany camps should be investigated for potential abductees?

Is that what you mean?

AliaTheEvilLeaper Fri 18-Oct-13 23:36:10

Is there another thread on it? Sorry, hadn't seen that, will take a look.
Oh, and never one for second had I insinuated that all Romany camps should be investigated for potential abductees. hmm
Yes, of course they'll be investigating who this child is. That's not the point, though is it? If there's a chance ONE of them can be potentially abducted, then isn't there a chance there could be others in there too?
I know it's a big country. Should we just assume that there's nothing to worry about and to not investigate? When there;s a chance there COULD be more? Why would you be willing to take that risk?

ICameOnTheJitney Fri 18-Oct-13 23:38:05

Alia many abducted children are NOT in Romany Camps...QUICK! SEARCH ALL THE HOUSING ESTATES!!!

AliaTheEvilLeaper Fri 18-Oct-13 23:44:15

Alia many abducted children are NOT in Romany Camps...QUICK! SEARCH ALL THE HOUSING ESTATES!!!

Oh, FFS, why the sarcastic response? Are you incapable of having a reasonable discussion, or what?!

lifeinthefastlane1 Fri 18-Oct-13 23:52:17

what happened with the dna stuff earlier in the year??? any news on that in the Ben needham case?

ICameOnTheJitney Sat 19-Oct-13 00:00:22

Alia of course I am but your OP has nothing intelligent about it! A child has been found in the same area Ben Needham went missing. The authorities have not worked out where she is from or if she was abducted...so OF COURSE you're being unreasonable.

HarryStottle Sat 19-Oct-13 00:07:23

Who on earth would gypsies feel the need to abduct children and bring them up as their own? Surely that belongs to nursery rhymes ("my mother said...")?

HildaOgden Sat 19-Oct-13 00:15:32

I always wondered why gypsy kidnappings where often mentioned as a possibility in child abduction cases,tbh I thought it was some sort of lazy racist nonsense.But this case has made me believe that actually,yes,it does happen.I can only assume that it's for benefits and that they make some profit (although it cant be much,surely?).

I feel really sorry for both the child and her biological parents,I can't even begin to imagine the hard road they have ahead of them when they reunite and try to get back to being a family.

HarryStottle Sat 19-Oct-13 00:23:59

But why? This is a serious question, I'm genuinely interested

HildaOgden Sat 19-Oct-13 00:32:41

Profit from benefits,or possibly paedophile purposes?Selling them on for 'adoption'?

It's definitely not because they are broody themselves,that's for sure.

AliaTheEvilLeaper Sat 19-Oct-13 00:37:25

Who on earth would gypsies feel the need to abduct children and bring them up as their own? Surely that belongs to nursery rhymes ("my mother said...")?

I'm assuming you mean why on earth and not who one earth as that would make more sense?
If you read the Ben Needham pages the past couple of days, you'll find that after this revelation of the 4 year old girl found that this is what could have happened to Ben.
YEARS ago he was actually purpoted to have been abducted by Roma gypsies and somebody had said as much, but nothing had come of it.
Why was that avenue not properly investigated?
This girl has been found not biologically related to who she was living with. With another 10 or so kids.
Surely Ben is a possibility to be out there?
Especially as it so obviously happens. Even though he'll be an adult now and probably unaware sad
http://www.bubblews.com/news/1367759-greek-police-find-blonde-girl-living-with-roma-gypsies-is-there-hope-for-ben-and-madeleine

AliaTheEvilLeaper Sat 19-Oct-13 00:39:09
ICameOnTheJitney Sat 19-Oct-13 00:41:48

That link isn't from a reputable news site. We all know the story anyway...from the newspapers online Alia

AliaTheEvilLeaper Sat 19-Oct-13 00:55:28

What, ones from the UK? Do only those register on your 'reputable' newspapers online, Jitney? As we all know none of them are leading with anything tomorrow if it doesn't point to favourable missing people.
If someone goes missing when there's been a sizeable point towards a certain area and a hint towards Romany camps before and it's all been ignored, then someone else goes missing from the same area, should we just ignore that fact as the British media aren't picking up on the fact?
Surely any lead, or any thing AT ALL, is worth checking out and pursuing? I know I would if my boys were involved. I wouldn't give a flying fuck what the papers are reporting, if I had had a tip off years ago about a Roma gypsy camp having kids not theirs in the same country my boys had gone missing, I'd make DAMN sure I'd exhausted all avenues.
Why should I just accept the fact people can't be arsed to look, or to give it any attention?

ICameOnTheJitney Sat 19-Oct-13 01:07:17

No not "ones from the uk" but those which are not based on user's contributions...those which employ journalists.

sashh Sat 19-Oct-13 07:48:50

Sigh

What a racist thread to wake up to.

I've not seen the news report and the link doesn't work so I'm going by what is on here.

I child has been found, the 'parents' don't show DNA of parents therefore gypsies kidnapped Ben Needham.

tiredoutgran Sat 19-Oct-13 08:08:29

I went and visited the official Find Ben website after reading the previous thread on here. If Kerry is correct the Greek police did NOT investigate a child who was named to be Ben and living in a gypsy camp, the family who were named to have him actually took legal action against the police for harassment and failed. This was still not thoroughly investigated. It makes interesting reading and OP isn't far wrong, I was asking myself pretty much the same question, and also why the Government is not willing to do more in Ben's case!

MadAsFish Sat 19-Oct-13 08:15:32

Who on earth would gypsies feel the need to abduct children and bring them up as their own?

Because cute blonde blue-eyed children work better for begging. See BBC article.

ohmymimi Sat 19-Oct-13 08:24:23

This is an item on the BBC news this morning. Guess who was the only missing British child mentioned in the item, prompted by their publicists. This concentration on one child has just been challenged on an earlier segment on BBC news. I would never suggest any parent was wrong to try to move heaven and earth to find their child, but our news media is culpable in choosing which cases they think we should be manipulated to care about more than others. As this mornings' news item relates to an event in Greece, where Ben disappeared, I find it odd that he was not mentioned. However, a child may now be reunited with her family because the Greek Police were alert; good for them.

ohmymimi Sat 19-Oct-13 08:25:48

Apostrophe fail - morning's, sorry fellow pendants.

JustThisOnceOrTwiceOrThrice Sat 19-Oct-13 08:40:54

I always thought people saying that gypsies abducting children was just scare mongering and being racist, but this definitely needs investigating. I think its more a question of why wouldn't it be investigated rather than why would it.

cranberryorange Sat 19-Oct-13 08:50:00

I think its a huge step forward for Kerry and needs to be investigated as soon as possible and then any links to Ben can be ruled out.

I hope Kerry pushes this forward and gets 5 million quid to commission her own team of investigators to look into it if our police wont do it.

Bens name should be all over this story as a potential link so YANBU.

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