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To think this schools policy on prescribed medicines is wrong?

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ForrinForrinerFromForrinLand Thu 10-Oct-13 18:24:34

I just wondered weather there is a standard rule about this for all primary schools?

DN has just started school in. He suffers from severe asthma, its especially bad in winter months to the point where he has hospital stays monthly. His school initially requested that an inhaler was taken in. However after a little probing it seems they haven't been giving it to him. He's very wheezy. When asked the teacher responded by saying that he didn't request it. They expected a 4 yr old to prompt them every 4 hours for an inhaler! And now the school is saying they won't be responsible for ensuring the inhaler is regularly given to DN.

Now I'm a little shocked as I assumed schools had a duty of care. And certainly had to have plans in place for children who needed prescribed medication during the school day.

Spirulina Thu 10-Oct-13 18:26:39

huge class sizes and little time....how can they tailor themselves to the care of one child? also,has he had attacks at school? has he been hospitalised from school?

I thought inhalers were only given as required

ChestyCoffin Thu 10-Oct-13 18:28:38

Sounds common.

Friend is having issues with 4 year old DGS, newly diagnosed diabetes but school won't check his glucose levels hmm

Trapper Thu 10-Oct-13 18:29:30

That alarming. Do children on regular medication have to be home schooled then?

notanyanymore Thu 10-Oct-13 18:32:12

But the children are in their care, and therefore it is their responsibility to ensure their safety. People die of asthma and diabetes. These medicines form part of the basic care for these children.

ForrinForrinerFromForrinLand Thu 10-Oct-13 18:32:51

So huge class sizes and little time means that a child with a serious medical condition is simply forgotten about. hmm
I'm not asking for special treatment for a PFB I can assure you of that. No, he hasn't had any attacks at school, yet. But it doesn't fill you with confidence if they're not willing to administer an inhaler!

Sirzy Thu 10-Oct-13 18:33:00

What have the parents asked?

DS has severe asthma and is currently at the pre-school attached to the school he will go to next year. I have given the school full written instructions, talked to all of the staff involved with him about specific signs and symptoms for him and exactly what is needed when a problem.

I don't think just sending an inhaler in and then expecting school to know when to give is fair.

Spirulina Thu 10-Oct-13 18:33:01

some schools don't put sunscreen or plasters on!

Sirzy Thu 10-Oct-13 18:34:05

And I don't think expecting a child with severe asthma to be able to ask for their inhaler is asking a lot. DS is only 3 but because of the severity he knows when he needs it and will ask

ForrinForrinerFromForrinLand Thu 10-Oct-13 18:34:50

Trapper that's what I was thinking.

What other option do you have if the school isn't taking a medical condition seriously?!

Spirulina Thu 10-Oct-13 18:35:26

serious medical condition? so what if half the class have something which needs medication?how are the teachers supposed to teach? he knows how to administer it himself?

think chools are damned if they do and damned if they dont

teacherandguideleader Thu 10-Oct-13 18:35:56

Don't know about primary but that isn't the case at my secondary. Some children have lunch etc at different times due to medical needs. Sounds wrong to me.

teacherandguideleader Thu 10-Oct-13 18:37:18

We employ someone whose job is to ensure these things happen, it is not the teacher's responsibility.

ForrinForrinerFromForrinLand Thu 10-Oct-13 18:38:38

sirzy we'll have to disagree on that one. I think all children are different, I certainly wouldn't expect a 3yr old to manage their dosage.

They've requested a meeting with the head. The school didn't just as for inhalers to be sent in. There were forms to fill in regarding usage.

Morgause Thu 10-Oct-13 18:39:41

DC1 had chronic asthma and I used to have him home for dinners until I was sure he would remember to take his inhaler at school. That way I knew he had taken it and was able to make sure he had used it properly.

From the age of 4 he was able to tell teachers if he needed his ventolin inhaler.

Teachers cannot be expected to be responsible for the health needs of all the children in their classes.

ChestyCoffin Thu 10-Oct-13 18:39:49

spirulina inhalers aren't only when required, there's lots of different regimes.

Bring back the school nurse!

Iwaswatchingthat Thu 10-Oct-13 18:40:01

His parents probably need to be more explicit about when he needs it - like asking them to give him a certain number of puffs of it it before lunch.

They will need to sign when it has been administered and do the time - he needs a list with a date and time column for the staff to initial.

If he needs it once in the school day then the school will only have to give it once. The parents/childcare could do the before and after school ones.

ForrinForrinerFromForrinLand Thu 10-Oct-13 18:40:19

spirulina are you delibarately trying to be obtuse?

Does he just need it every few hours or does it depend on how he is?

Spirulina Thu 10-Oct-13 18:41:15

ok,so what is his regime op?

uselessinformation Thu 10-Oct-13 18:42:04

The school should put a plan in place for dealing with a child with a chronic condition. You need to meet with the school and draw up a written plan with the names of the staff responsible for carrying out the plan. Those staff need to be trained by you and an asthma nurse. In fact you could ask your asthma nurse what has happened in other schools. Apart from the particular trained staff, all other staff need to know what to do in an emergency.

Sirzy Thu 10-Oct-13 18:42:11

Asking for their inhaler isn't managing the dose though. I think it is vital for children with chronic health conditions to understand when they need treatment - they are the one who knows before others when they are feeling rubbish.

It sounds like it has been badly handled all around. If it is that serious surely the parents would have had a meeting well before he started to ensure that they were confident in him being cared for?

Spirulina Thu 10-Oct-13 18:42:27

*ForrinForrinerFromForrinLand Thu 10-Oct-13 18:40:19

spirulina are you delibarately trying to be obtuse?*

where?

ForrinForrinerFromForrinLand Thu 10-Oct-13 18:42:34

He needs to take it every 4hrs. Daily.

Sirzy Thu 10-Oct-13 18:43:53

So why didnt the parents sort that before he started? I am really struggling to understand that side of things.

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