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To not want nor agree with fucking douching or moisturising MY OWN Vag.

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frogslegs35 Tue 01-Oct-13 09:23:30

I can't go anywhere nor watch TV without being reminded that I 'Should' be doing one of/both and I'm getting slightly pissed off with this severely outdated information.
Dr's recommend it here shock Half of pharmacies are taken up with feminine products such as Provag gel - moisturiser for your vagina (WTAF?) and floraVag - to purify your vagina hmm I'm getting leaflets in the mailbox and even got given one on a visit to the cinema ffs!
Final straw today was in the pharmacy - the assistant asked if I'd like to buy some on promotion so I told her I didn't use it and didn't want to cause myself thrush and she looked at me like I'd just told her I ate newborn babies confused
If my translation of language would have allowed I'd have also informed her that my own Gynaecologist and GP both advise against using anything other than gentle soap on the outside - so thank you very much but my vag is capable of cleaning itself, is clean and hygenic, doesn't smell and I manage perfectly well without FloraVag.
Rant over grin

Didactylos Tue 01-Oct-13 10:57:48

OP, i think Ellentheprobiotictampon would make a perfect name change for giving advice on fanjo threads

KateCroydon Tue 01-Oct-13 11:00:14

The NHS recommend femfresh? Really? Find that hard to believe. Evidence?

boardingschoolbaby Tue 01-Oct-13 11:01:30

So shall we set up our own company and start marketing "munchable man" ?
On a more serious note I think that these things can have their place for a minority of people. I've never used them, but I have taken probiotics after antibiotics and some of these products are similar in nature to that aren't they? But yes, if all is well down there then there is absolutely no need to use anything other than water, and to use anything else does put you at risk of upsetting the natural flora and balance. As someone with particularly sensitive skin everywhere on my body the prospect of the "fresheners" has my skin shriveling just thinking about it!

Kate they don't recommend particular brands. my gp recommended not using any washes which are the wrong ph. femfresh or own brand equivalents are the same ph as vagina and thus clean without disrupting natural ph. along with bio live yoghurt on tampons it worked for me better than just water (was actively soothing where plain water could be irritating) and avoided the need for repeat antifungals, not ideal in pregnancy

it has nothing to do with deodorising, scenting or douching, but people like to use preset responses to what they imagine you've said

IAmNotAMindReader Tue 01-Oct-13 11:27:12
curlew Tue 01-Oct-13 11:29:11

All the NHS says is to avoid using vaginal deodorants, scented shower gel and so on. I can't find any "science bit" abou pH.

I hate the way things are marketed to women, I really do.

frogslegs35 Tue 01-Oct-13 12:10:40

<still within topic and in case anyone is interested>

After trying everything to get rid of thrush and after a particular bad episode - I looked to natural sources, after trawling the net for success stories my choices were narrowed down to:

A) Popping a half clove of fresh garlic inside hmm
or
B) A tampon worn overnight soaked in diluted Tea Tree oil. You can also use the mixture to bathe any sore outside area's.
I went for B (I'd never look at garlic again in the same way) and not only was I completely clear in 3 days but the itch stopped almost immediately too.

TheBigJessie Tue 01-Oct-13 12:14:02

I was just pointing out that ordinary shower gel was obviously not guaranteed to cause thrush.

But hey, if you want to get offended and sneer at my "superior biochemistry", sure.

TheBigJessie Tue 01-Oct-13 12:19:57

By the way, in my parallel world, all hormonal contraception so far has caused morning sickness, and I'm now limited to only one type for health reasons, which causes the worst morning nausea of the lot. (I think I may have been on the hyperemesis spectrum while I was actually pregnant, too.)

Does that make it less sickening that I haven't had thrush yet? I also have some weird allergies.

KirjavaTheCorpse Tue 01-Oct-13 12:23:31

Never had thrush. Wash down there with my usual bodywash.

Do I have a super resilient fanjo?

squoosh Tue 01-Oct-13 12:26:01

I've never had thrush and I've never used soap on my fanjo.

Also I've been complimented on its scent and flavour by more than one gentleman caller.

FrigginRexManningDay Tue 01-Oct-13 12:28:13

Again you are being obtuse heart. No where did I say that San pro pushers invented thrush.

So you carry on.

DuckToWater Tue 01-Oct-13 12:29:36

I got thrush from taking the pill and antibiotics.

Extra lubricant for sex can be quite fun, whether you need it or not. But totally agree on vag deodorant.

TheBigJessie Tue 01-Oct-13 12:30:55

Presumably? Just to check, are you allergic to apples, cherries or obstetric cholestasis medication? Sensitivities to hormonal contraception? I'm trying to find the common denominator here.

Oh, I have some neurological quirks/disabilities. I'm fairly certain they're genetic. Could link with genetic resilience to thrush?

KirjavaTheCorpse Tue 01-Oct-13 12:33:20

Nah my mum was constantly clutching a tube of canesten, don't think my resilience is genetic. I'm probably just well 'ard.

festered Tue 01-Oct-13 12:41:31

I moisturise the vulva skin but not my actual vag lol

TheBigJessie Tue 01-Oct-13 12:43:16

I briefly considered asking my mother as part of my investigation, but then I imagined how the conversation would actually go.

I haven't forgotten the talk about how the pill caused [insert here] and sex was disgusting and she wished she'd realised that when she was my age. Etc.

Minifingers Tue 01-Oct-13 12:44:17

"minifingers cngratulations on reaching 47 without getting thrush"

I had thrush in pregnancy. I stopped eating sugar, yeast and refined carbohydrates and it went away.

If it had continued to trouble me I would have consulted a doctor. Who would NOT have advised me to use a commercial fanny wash on my itchy bits.

hardboiledpossum Tue 01-Oct-13 12:44:34

I got bacterial vaginosis from fem fresh. the gynacologist told me to only use water.

PennieLane Tue 01-Oct-13 12:45:09

I've never heard of thrush (nor had it ever though kind of goes without saying) until mumsnet, always used Radox.

can I claim my super-human badge please?

PennieLane Tue 01-Oct-13 12:45:58

super biochemistry badge.

Minifingers Tue 01-Oct-13 12:46:21

"femfresh or own brand equivalents are the same ph as vagina and thus clean without disrupting natural ph"

But what exactly is up there that shouldn't be, that needs washing away with some sort of soap? If you have thrush you need to address why that is, not be shoving soap in there to wash away the discharge, no matter how PH neutral the soap is.

KirjavaTheCorpse Tue 01-Oct-13 12:47:24

I'll send you the address to claim your Super Vag Bagde, Pennie.

Water is ph neutral, best thing to use. I don't use anything else.

valiumredhead Tue 01-Oct-13 12:54:08

hearts I'm with you smile I'm a woman of a certain age , ahem, and also use it because it's not harsh and doesn't irritate me.

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